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 प्रचण्ड को भिडियो र पद्म रत्न को क्यासेट !!

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Posted on 05-05-09 10:12 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 05-05-09 3:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Great Job Rahul Dai, 


हामी मध्ये धेरैलाई त्यो video नै हेर्नु पर्‍यो terrorists को साचो अनुहार हेर्न,   केही गरिहाल्छ कि भन्ने झिनो आसा त थियो पनि तर  सारा देश सारा जनता लाई बेबकूब बनाउलान भनेर सतर्क त हुनु पर्ने नै थियो पहिले देखी नै /      

 
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well stat, once I was also a supporter of these commies, at the time when I was only 8th grade. Later when I realized through my study and experience, this commie thoery and their so called leaders are just keeping people are in illusion. I still believe "Total Caplitalism" like in US also will not work, current market situation is consequence of far right capitalistic policy. In country like nepal , system can not run by free market policy. Nor we can have these commies LUTERA. Madan K Bhandari, BP Koirala basically argues the same thing but differently that is why we saw UML changed thier policy to janatako baudalia janabad.

OK coming back to this episode, after 1990, there have been lot of curruption cases in "Crores" but in this case this bastard is gaining " Arabs" that too with people's death. Just boils me up. Time has come to say enough is enough!

 
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मलाई यो भि डियो देखेर कुनै आस्चर्य लागेन           

यो त उनी हरुको घोसित वा अघोसित कार्यनिती नै हो तर त्यो भन्दा दु:खको कुरो त शाहीद्को लास लाई त पैसा कमाउने बाटो बनाएको देखेर रगत उम्लेर आयो
अझ कार्यकर्तालाइ सोझै झुक्कायेर दिवा सपन देखाएक छन यि माओबादि ले तेहि जातिय स्वतन्त्रता को सपना देखयेर देश् टुक्रिन लगि सक्यो

कटुवाले यो भि डियो देखेरनै  सेना समायोजन को बिरुद मा बोलेको होला

बिचरा येस्तै कति झुठ बोलेर सोझा जनता लाइ मर्न र मार्न उतप्रेरित गरायो

अझ बि बि सि सेबा मा पासङ भन्छ " कार्यकर्ता लाइ प्रसिछित गर्ने क्रममा येस्त कुरा गर्नु त स्वभाभीक कुरा हो"

अझ कथित नागरिक समाजको भुमिका देखेर आस्चर्य  र माओबादिको कार्यकर्ता  नारा देखेर घ्रिना लाग्दछ

रामाहरि र प्रचन्ड थैबको हत्यारालाइ सम्रक्छन गर्दा नागरिक सर्बोचतताको कुरा उठेन न त कथित नागरिक समाज ले नै केहि बोल्यो
साचै यो नागरिक समाजको प्रतिनिधि भनेर यिनिहरुलाई कस्ले बनाइ दियो

आफुले भारत सङ्ग मिलेर राजा हटाउदा उपयोगिताबाद्  भारतले अरु सङ मिलेर आफु हट्नु परे बिस्तारबाद

भारतीय बिस्तारबाद को बिरोधि भये चाइना बात फर्किने बितिकै मेरो पहिलो औपचारिक भ्रमण भारत हुन्छ भनेर फलाकनु पर्दैन थियो होला


भगवान् पसुपतिनाथले सबै चेतना दिउन र माओबादि लाइ सदबुद्दि दिउन्

 
Posted on 05-05-09 9:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Malai ta Nepe ji ko comment po herna padhna man lagyo. Jaba Maoist le 12 bude ma sahi gare thiye Nepe ji ko expectation ekdam ramro thiyo Nepali Maodai Prachanda sanga. Nepe jyu Prachanda ko jasto chhudra bhsasa ma hoina ali sabhya bhsasa ma yahako comment paauna yo Prahcanda ko Video ko barema. Tapai insult garna khojeko hoina, tapai le kunai din Prachanda lai positively present garnu bhako thiyo yo forum ma. Yadi mero understanding or observation galti thiyo bhane risani maaf pau la.

Texas ko west side ma baseka ek jana chhan ni khub federalism ka idea Prachanda lai pes garne wala guru ji, k bhanchan hola uni aaja ko Prachanda Video ko barema? Prachanda bata Khub expect gareka thiye, khub benefit of doubt dinthe uni prachanda lai.

NepaliPost.com le Prachanda ko video ko barema k bolcha hola? I came to know that D.R.Pandey, Krishna Pahadi, and NepaliPost.com ko  main owner (aru sab .... association blah blah dekhaune daat hun, jastai ANA-Nepal ma one after another exe.team comes from same group of people) are relatives. Did Prachanda clearly tell that Civic leaders are our own people, "hamro creation?" Malai ta tyo po sunna man lageko thiyo ta ni. Tyo chai off the record bhane jasto chha.

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यस बिषयलाई राहुलभाईले उठाउनु भएको विचार सँग पनि सहमत् छु। खासै राजनीतिमा ईच्छा नभए पनि देश बिग्रिएको देख्दा दु: लाग्नु स्वाभाबिक हो। साथीहरुले लेख्दा मलाई पनि केही लेख्न मन लाग्यो।     


 


वास्तवमा नेपाली राजनीति दुर्गन्धित भाईसकेको छ। वातावरण पुरै धमिलो बनेको छ। त्यसैले पनि यसबाट टाढा रहन मन लाग्छ। किनभने यहाँ सबै भुस्सिया कुक्कुरहरुको जमात छ।  जे पनि भुक्छन, टोक्छन, अनी आपसमा आँफै लड्छन्। जबकी एउटा हड्डीका लागि लड्छन् अनी चित्त नबुझे या चुसेर सिद्धिए छोड्छन्। जस्तै अहिलेको प्रचन्ड,हडडी नछोड्नेमा गिरिजा।  


 


नेपाललाई अहिले क्यान्सर लागेसरी रोग लागेको छ। यो रोग उपचार् गर्नलाई धेरै भन्दा धेरै मिहेनेत गर्नु पर्ने अवस्था आइसकेको छ। जुनै पार्टी नेता आएपनि देशलाई ओरालो लगाउनु सिवाय केही छैन। मान्छे मार्ने बानी परेको माओवादीलाई अहिले तलतल लागिरहेको छ। यिनिहरुले नै सिकाएको छन् मान्छे मार्न। यिन्ले नै सिकाएका छन् देश भाड्न,यिन्लाई अहिले "के खोज्ज्चस कानो आखो" भने झै भएको छ।


 


नेपाली जनताले चाहेको बिकास भन्दा पनि शान्ति हो। तर शान्तिको देशमा आज रगतको खोलो बगाउने माओका नोक्करहरुले आफ्नै आमाको चिर हरण गरिरहेको छन्। आफ्नै आमाको बलत्त्कार गरिरहेका छन्। आफ्नै दिदी - बहिनी दाजु - भाईहरुलाई मार्न प्रचन्डेले कलिलो हातहरुमा खुकुरी बन्दुक थमाइरहेका छन्। प्रचन्डेलाई धिक्कार् छ। प्रचन्डे(जुका)जस्ता रगत चुसुवाहरुले चै आनन्दले आदेश दिई रहेका छन्। यि माओ भनाउदा प्रचन्डेका पुच्छरहरुले खै कुरा बुझेको? यिनिहरुलाई पनि धिक्कार् छ। प्रचन्डेले जता हल्लायो पुच्छर तेतै जानेहारुलाई। त्यो पुच्छर यो हो कि प्रचन्डेको तलको माल छोप्ने पुच्छर हो।


 


नेपालीले नेपालीलाई नै मारेर कुनै ठुलो क्रान्ति गरे भन्नु गर्बको कुरा होइन। यो नामर्द पन हो। बरु सक्छौ भने देश भाड्ने नेताहरुलाई मारा अनि आफ्नै टाउके प्रचन्डेलाई मारा। किन मार्छौ सोझा निमुखा जनतालाई?       


 


साँच्चि नै भन्ने हो भने नेपालीहरु एक आपसमा झगडा गरेर केही फाईदा छैन। नेपाली सबै हातमा हात मिलाएर अगाडि बड्नु पर्ने अवस्था आईसकेको छ। नेताहरु सबै भ्रस्ट चरित्रका छन् कसैलाई विश्वाश गर्न लायक छैनन्। यो कुरा सबैले बुझ्नु पर्ने भएको छ।    


 


जस्तै बिदेसिएका कैयौ नेपालीहरु होलान् अब नेपालमा शान्ति भैसक्यो, नेपाल फर्केर केही गरौ भन्नेलाई फेरी बिदेशमा नै रहन बाध्या बनाएको छ।      


 


नेपालको नेताहरुको दिमागमा किरा परेको छ। गोबर भरिएको छ। यिनीहरुलाई सद्-बुद्दी दिउन्। पशुपतीनाथ सँग यही प्रार्थना!!!!



 


कलेदाइ


 
Posted on 05-06-09 10:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Relevancy of the video was questioned by Maoists. Wow, interesting. They used the content of that video to win the election, and now, they say the content is irrelevant. The content remains relevant unless and until we have another election completed successfully.


Unfortunately, their constituency is the illeterate Nepalis who will accept that video and the logics: Yasto ta bhai halchha ni afno party bhitra. We have seen last year, how the election in US saw extreme events, the journalists explored, drilled and mined all information about the presidential candidates. Comparing to the election process and contribution of US journalists, I will stand behind Image Chanel's courage to air the video. They did commendable job, and at the right time. It can not be better than this. Using Murphy's law, things are made to fail will fail when you need it. Why was the video first in place? It was to air. If they did not want it, they should not have made. We got a chance to see it, because it is there. We loved to see a content that we hated it to be there. Some us of Love to hate it, some others will hate to love it, a few will love to love it, and rest of us will hate to hate it. Frankly, I am among those who love to hate Prachanda and cronies.


This video has clearly separated us into two distinct categories. Particularly, the media house and journalists could not stand in gray zone. Those who posted the edited video of length less than 10 minutes seemed to be on the otherside of Maoists, and the Maoist supporters or sympathizer media house like NayaPatrika.com, NepaliPost.com did not have any link. NepaliPost.com which is run by relative of so called civic society leader Pahadi clearly showed its position. No link, no mention of video, so far. So called civic society leaders are mute in this video scandal. Why? Because they are civilian arrow "useful idiots" in Maoist bow (dhanus). They did not speak any word when Ram Hari Shrestha, thaiba, Uma, Birendra Sah were killed by Maoists, and some did but just a face saving press release at a very late time.


Anyway, this video will reinforce the skin heads within the Maoists because they don't have any cognitive skill, and the people on the otherside of the coin have gotten a real value meal to watch what Maoists are in real sense, and they used to hear, and gave a lot of benefit of doubt to Maoists, but now no more. There is a third category of people, who joined Maoists not because they like Maoism or Maoists, but they saw an opportunity there because Maoists don't have a chunk of supporters with academic background to fill public positions now and in future: once local elections are to be held, also in government positions. Prachanda's son has just a 10+2 equivalent education, and Hisila yami filled all major posts by her relatives because she once told that they (Maoists) did not have enough educated and qualified people to fill in those places should she not appoint her relatives in those positions. I mean, Maoists have hollow space between their top level leadership, and the cadres. To fill the hollow space of educated mass within the Maoist Party, the greedy and cunning people have switched their side, and are waiting for opportunities, and they will eventually exploit the weakness of Maoists. This group, let me borrow BRB's word, "Tesro Lingi" people in Maoists will misuse the power in such a way that it will eventually bring Maoist image down to hell, and this is the same "Tesro Lingi" that brought Kangressies down in the aftermath of 2046. Anyway, Maoists want them because they don't have educated mass to fill in the hollow space between leaders and cadres (i.e. the formal certficate holders). If BRB really rejected the idea of funneling Rs .75 crore by having backdated meeting, then I have to review him, rethink my position on him: from love to hate to hate to love. Before I switch my position, I have to drill what is the role of this guy in changing the Rs. 40+ crores of beruju to anudan that they did it immediately after (or before) PM resigned from position. If he tried to block these 33+ decisions made in last minute, then I certainly have to change my position to Hate to Love, instead of current, love to hate him.


 
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GPwrote:


> Malai ta Nepe ji ko comment po herna padhna man lagyo.


 


GPji,


 


मलाई दिनदिनै भेट्न सकिने गोप्य ठाम त बताएकै छु । तैपनि यहाँ राख्‍नुभएको जिज्ञासमा मेरो संक्षिप्त प्रत्युतर ।


प्रचण्डजीको व्यक्तित्वको बारेमा उहाँले 2000  मा Revolutionary Worker लाई दिनुभएको अन्तर्वार्ता ( http://revcom.us/a/v21/1040-049/1043/interv.htm )मा “My main thrust is that I hate revisionism. I seriously hate revisionism. And I never compromise with revisionism. I fought and fought again with revisionism. And the party's correct line is based on the process of fighting revisionism. I hate revisionism. I seriously hate revisionism” भनेको पढेको दिनदेखि वहाँ कट्टर पुरातन साम्यवादी हुनुभएको चित्र मेरो दिमागमा थियो र त्यकारण वहाँलाई म (आफु कट्टर बुर्जुवा लोकतन्त्रवादी भएकाले) नेपालको लागि अयोग्य र खतरनाक नेताको रुपमा हेर्थें । बाबुराम भट्टराईको भने नरम साम्यवादी चित्र थियो मेरो दिमागमा ।


प्रचण्ड सार्वजनिक भएपछि उनले लगातार बुर्जुवा लोकतन्त्रप्रति प्रतिवद्धता व्यक्त गरेपछि भने पुराना कट्टर प्रचण्ड बदलिएछन भन्ने लाग्यो र केही समयसम्म त (दुई तीन महिना जति होला) प्रचण्ड नेपालको राजनेता (statesman) को रुपमा नै उदय हुनेतिर अगाडी बढिरहेका हुन् कि भन्ने लागेको हो मलाई । किनभने माओवादी विद्रोहलाई बुर्जुवा लोकतन्त्रमा अवतरण गर्नु भनेको महान राजनेताले मात्र गर्न सक्ने आँट, वलिदान, कुशलता, उदारता, समयबोध र दूरदर्शिता हो ।


किन्तु दुई तीन महिना बित्‍नेबित्तिकै उनले लटरपटर कुरा गरेर जनगणतन्त्रप्रति नै आस्था रहेको कुराको संकेत दिए । अनि अनेक आन्तरिक निर्णयहरु र सार्वजनिक वक्तव्यबाट त स्पष्ट रुपमा माओवादीहरु जहाँको तहाँ रहेको कुरा देखियो ।


लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्र लाई अस्थायी रुपमा स्वीकार गरी जनगणतन्त्र का आफ्ना दीर्घकालिन लक्षको लागि काम गर्दै जाने - यस्सै गरेका पनि हुन्, भनेका पनि हुन् ।


यसकुराम म भ्रममा (प्रचण्ड सार्वजनिक भएको लगत्तै कालखण्डमा बाहेक) कहिले थिईनँ ।


अब जहाँसम्म video को कुरा छ, माओवादीको दीर्घकालिन लक्ष्यकोबारेमा प्रचण्डले गरेका संकेतहरुले मलाई आश्चर्यमा पारेनन्, त्यो जगजाहेर नै कुरा हो । मलाई आश्चर्यमा पारेको र क्षुब्ध बनाएको कुरा एउटै छ । र त्यो हो उनले आफैले सहमति जनाएको ठूलो राष्ट्रिय महत्वको सहमति (राष्ट्रिय सेना को निर्माण, वृहद शान्ति सम्झौताको मर्म र त्यसको सार्वजनिक व्याखा र बुझाई) लत्याई गर्ने योजना बनाएको गद्धारी । यसलाई राष्ट्रिय गद्दारी नै भन्नुपर्छ, यसको अर्को शब्द छैन ।


कुरा के भने जनसेनानेपाली सेना लाई समायोजन गरेर राष्ट्रिय सेना निर्माण गर्ने जुन बहस र सहमति हो नि, त्यसमा राष्ट्रिय सेना भनेको सामान्य सँयुक्त सेना होईन ।


राष्ट्रिय सेना भनेको कस्तो सेना हो भने यो माओवादी वा कुनै पनि दल र त्यसको दीर्घलाकिन राजनैतिक लक्ष्यप्रति वफादार होईन, त्यस्तो वैचारिक तालिमबाट मुक्त र नितान्त पेशेवर सेना हो । राष्ट्रिय सेना को अर्थ, मर्म र सिमाना त्यही हो ।


तर माओवादीले उसको जनसेना राष्ट्रिय सेना बनिसकेपछि पनि वैचारिकता र वफादारीता भने माओवादीप्रति नै कायम राखिने योजना/चाहना बनाएको देखियो । त्यो राष्ट्रिय गद्धारी हो ।


मलाई आसा छ, प्रचण्डले हिजोको स्पष्टिकरण सभामा सांकेतिक रुपमा बताएजस्तै (वागमतिमा धेरै पानी बगिसकेको छ) माओवादीले नेपालको भावी राष्टिय सेना लाई आफ्नो दलको वैचारिक दासको रुपमा होईन कि राष्ट्रिय चरित्रको पेशेवर सेनाको रुपमा निर्माण गर्न आन्तरिक रुपमै सहमत र तयार छ ।


अन्यथा माओवादी दीर्घकालिन योजना बोकेरै राष्ट्रिय सेना मा प्रवेश गर्न चाहने जनसेनालाई हाम्रा नेताहरुले जेसुकै गरुन् तर हामी जनताहरुले भने अस्वीकार गर्नुपर्छ ।


मैले बारम्बार भनिराखेको छु, जनसेनाको वैचारिक वन्ध्याकरण (ideological neutralization) र वफादारी हस्तान्तरण (loyalty shift) नगरिकन सेना समायोजन गरिनै हुन्न । त्यो नभएसम्मका लागि क्यान्टोनमेन्टमै राख्‍नुपर्छ ।


पछिल्लो कटुवाल प्रसंग यीनै ठूलो तस्विरको एकभाग हो । यसबारे छुट्टै विस्तृत व्याख्या उचित होला ।


तर अहिलाई निम्न तीनबुँदाहरु मेरो व्यक्तिगत विज्ञप्तीको रुपमा राख्‍न चाहन्छु ।


 



  1. There is no conflict between the president’s order of stay and the idea of ‘civil supremacy’. On the contrary, president’s order only complement and reinforce the notion of ‘civil supremacy’. Therefore, the ongoing Nagarik Samaj’s opposition to the president’s action is senseless.

  2. If Katawal deserves punishment for this role in the suppression of the People’s movement, this is not the right time and the context. Katawal can still be punished after he retires. In fact, that will be a good precedence to establish.

  3. Calling the president Rambaran Yadav a puppet of India or other foreign powers could not be more stupid and cynic. I believe President Rambarna Yadav is the only person who cares about the nation right now. I am absolutely confident that he took this decision from his own conscience. Nagarik Samaj is being unable to see it because they are blinded by their self-assertive loath to Katawal (partly justifiable) and a pervasive domination (Stockholm syndrome ?) of Maoist. 

Rambaran Yadav might fail. Because that’s how the atmosphere looks like. He might be forced to go to graze his buffaloes. But I will always salute him for what I believe he listened to his inner voice and acted.


 


Thank you for reading.


 


Nepe



 
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Well said Nepe....Good analysis...

 
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I agree with Nepe's comments that currently President and COAS are only in the right track without any personal greed, in my belief.


>>तर माओवादीले उसको जनसेना राष्ट्रिय सेना बनिसकेपछि पनि वैचारिकता र वफादारीता भने माओवादीप्रति नै कायम राखिने योजना/चाहना बनाएको देखियो । त्यो राष्ट्रिय गद्धारी हो


अन्यथा माओवादी दीर्घकालिन योजना बोकेरै राष्ट्रिय सेना मा प्रवेश गर्न चाहने जनसेनालाई हाम्रा नेताहरुले जेसुकै गरुन् तर हामी जनताहरुले भने अस्वीकार गर्नुपर्छ ।<<<


 


तर बोल्ने कस्ले? अहिले राष्ट्रपती को कदम को बिरोध को नाममा जनताको ध्यान अन्त तिर मोडेर अझै पनि धोकाकै बाटो तिर नेपाली लाई धकेल्दै छन ।
सानो कुरा मा पनि ठुलो बखेडा निकाल्ने नेपाली जनता, प्रेस अनी नागरिक समाजले  भिडिओ मा बोलेको कुरा लाई त्यसइ मोडिदिएका छन । त्यस्को भोलिपल्ट प्रचन्डले नेपाली लाई झुक्क्याउदै छन भन्नु भन्दा त्यो  भिडिओ झुट हो भन्ने खाल्का समाचार ले प्राथमिकता पाए भने काङ्रेसले यसो पत्रकार सम्मेलन झै गर्‍यो अरु कोही चुइक्क बोलेनन केवल यस्तै फोरम हरुमा "ओहो" भन्ने बाहेक।
राष्ट्रपती र सेना प्रमुख त कि निकालीएलान कि राजिनामा देलान तर जबर्जस्ती अत्याचार भएको चाँही कस्ले रोक्न सक्ने? पहिला 'सबै नेपाली पञ्च' भने झै अहिले पनि के सबै जनता मा "प्रचन्ड पथ" लागु (indoctorinate) भै सकेको हो त?


 


 
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Nepe.. well said.. well analysed and well put! bravo!!! WI ko bravo haina ni.. saachi nai BRAVO!!!

 
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It has been a while since I last visited Sajha. I wanted to see what people are thinking about Prachanda's video. Here is my view after watching his video:

He is a communist Taleban! He mentioned in this speech that they have principle but Nepal Army just have boots. Indeed they have principle, an infected principle which has killed more people than world wars! A communist principle where you take over the governent by killing all who oppose you and impose a single party dictetorship. What they think invaluable priciple has been proved to be very poisionous principle for the world. Taleban has been fighting for centuries for their principle. Their principle destroyed Afhghanstan and now is the turn of Pakistan. Similarly, I am very much worried that Maoist's principle will destroy us.

This man is one of the most idiot politicians who can rule over ignorant Nepali. I intentionally didn't use the word "innocent Nepali", I used the word "ignorant Nepali". How many Nepali do you think speak the truth? Almost none! So, how can you expect a honest leader out of a dishonest society? if you make an objective point of view Nepali society is an unethical society and immoral society. There is no surprise to have unethical leaders like Prachanda form our society. A decent society will give you decent leader. See those ignorent people who are laughing in his horrible speech, his brainwashed servents. They are all communist suicide bombers who will blast someday for the communist principle when this idiot mistermind will seduce with his words.

Nepal is sleeping society where this type of videos does't make any impact. So called educated people's are associated with political parties. They are the real brainwashed idots. I don't even consider them educated because they never use their brain and their thoughts. They just carry the idea of cunning leader like Parchanda. If they were real educated, Prachand would no longer be a politician.

Maoists don't like America and American politics. Of course there are imperfactions in American policy. However, this country is #1 in the world because it deserve to be. If Obama makes a single lie to his people, he will no more be a precident tomorrow. I love this country because it has system that can be taken as an example. I love this country because its people are relatively decent and sensative to their leaders decency.

Nepali people are igonrent. Most of them don't know what Prachanda said. Most of them who have heard don't understand and few of them who have understood don't get effected. He is infected man; infected with a horrible vision like that of taleban. It is very urgent to be worried of him because igonarant Nepali are vulnerable to this disease. Whatever he said, we shouldn't take his words for gaurentee because his intension is always motivated by his infectious vision.

What a culture we have! People who support his party still support him. I am not talking about hardcore communist leaders, I am talking about general publics who voted for his party. Over 40% people voted for his party. Do you think this much people will be agreed with what he said? He is a son of Mao, who has killed half the population of Tibet and millions of Chinese. Don't think if his party comes to power you will be like today's China. Today's China what you see is made by a man (Den Xio Pen) whom Mao imprisioned.

Long ago I have written in this very sajha that "Gyanendra killed less than 50 people before leaving power but Prachanda will not leave power until he kills 50,000". If we are not vigilant, this can be ture.

We have responsibility to stop infected people like him. Otherwise once he comes in power with guns, all the creativity will be destroyed. I can not be regressive just because I don't like communist principle. Most of the countries in the world who are progressive are driven by non-communist principle. 

After listening to his tape, I am intensely feeling that I have to go to politics ............... probably I will ...

Vishowntar




 
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I totally agree with you.... !! Good writing.... great!!!

Prachanda, if not checkd by now,  will not leave political arena without killing not 50,000 Nepalese but 15,00,000.

 
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Nepe ji,


Thanks a lot. I am proud of you, and your views. We are on the same boat, may by not exactly on same chair, but may be sitting side by side. Your posting has enlightened this thread, and "Yo Thread Kad Ucha gareko chha." We never agreed more than in this post.


J bhane pani Maoists' action for last 1 years since election, have not changed and they are just part of the plan in the video, so "Bagmati ma jati pani bage pani kinar ma balchi thapera baseko Maobadi Jahako tyahi chha. Bagmati ma aajkal pani ki ta dhamilo bagchha, kita dry huncha, tyasaile Maobadi le Pashupati ka Aryaghat najikai bashi balchi thapi raheko chha jaha dhamilo pani jahile pani hune garchha, and pani nabageko bela Murda sanga khelne garcha." Maoists did not change, are not changing, will not change, tyo part chai satya ho. Aba ek matra upaya chha, BRB lai front line ma lyaera. Arko chha mahina pachhi ta ahile jasko sarkar bane pani Maoist sarkar feri banchha, ani tyasma BRB should be on front line, and become PM, and Prachanda will be gone forever. Lets hope. Hope is the reason we are alive.


Thank you, again.


GP


 
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याँहा केही नलेखम जस्तो लाग्या थियो तर मनले मानेन । हुन त भन्छन तानाशाही एउटाको डिक्टेटरसीप हो रे अनि डेमोक्रेसी १०।२० जनाको । याँहा रेटीङ सिस्टमले पनि त्यो पुष्टि नै गर्छ  र पहिल्यै प्वाक्क बोल्ने आँट गरिन।

पहिलो राहुलभाइको माइसंसारको प्रकरण पनि थाह छ अनि पध्मरत्नको पनि । मलाइ लाग्छ उहा सोझो, बिद्वान र पपुलर हुनुहुन्छ झन साहित्य लेखनमा त माहिर । तर राजनैतिक सन्दर्भमा पूर्वाग्रह बिनाको निश्पक्ष हुनुहुन्छ मलाइ यो लाग्दैन । गधालाइ धोएर गाइ बन्दैन त बारम्बार भन्नुहु्न्छ तर तेही गधाको उन्मादमा शिरोमणि बाबुराम र पृथ्वी नारायणको धज्जी उडाउन चुक्नु भएन । याँहा सम्म कि बीरेन्द्रले रामराजाको सहयोगमा सिंहदरबारमा बम पडकायो जस्ता हास्यासपद तर्क राख्दा ९,११ को षडयन्त्रलाइ मात दिनु हुन्छ भने बाँकी सत्य कुराको पनि बिश्वास गर्नलाइ धौ धौ परिन्छ  किन हो किन।

नेपेजीको कुरो समग्रमा ठिक हो तर यो तर्क गर्नलाइ अन्तरीम संबिधानको अष्पस्टता बाहेक उनको कुनै हतियार छैन साथै त्यसले ०४७ को धारा १२७ धाराको द्विभाव अनुसार  ज्ञानेको कदमलाइ पनि अप्रतक्ष्य रुपमा अनुमोदन गरिदिएको छ । याँहा रामबरणलाइ जनताबाट चुनेर आएको भन्नुहोला तर मोनार्की चुन्ने व्यबस्था त संसारमा कतै छैन  के गर्नु। लाग्न सक्छ  ज्ञानेको तारीफ गरे त्यो होइन , मूल कुरो समयाकुलिन तार्किक बाध्यतालाइ होइन भलै किन ढुंगा नचबाउनु परोस , सत्यता आत्मसात गर्नु मात्रै  हो । मात्र सत्ताका लागी ज्ञाने मात्र होइन, प्रजातन्त्रबादी कंग्रेस गिरिजा, एमाले, पत्रकार राजनैतिक(नागरीक) समाज, तपाइ हामी देखी लिएर अधिनायकबादी माओबादी सबै लागेको बिगतका घटनाक्रमले प्रष्ट हुन्छ । हुन त  फलप्राप्तिका लागि को लाग्दैन ? तर सिंगो देशलाइ दाउमा राखेर यति निचतासम्म आएको हामीहरु कहिल्यै थिएनौ । तपाइसंग बारम्बार अरु धागोमा प्रचंडपथको आडमा तर्क गर्नुहुन्थ्यो म चुनवाङ देखि खैरेपाटीलाइ पछ्याउदै लेलिने चकलेटको संज्ञा दिन्थे नभन्दै चुनाबी बिजय पछि एकिकृत संगै त्यो बिलाएर गयो । तर्कका लागि समय बाहेक मेरो केही हतियार थिएन तर हिन्दीमा भन्छन नि " देर आए लेकिन दुरुस्त" या "सुबहका भुला शामको लौटा" । तर तपाइ जस्ता कयौ प्रजातन्त्रबादीका ढाँढस र अनुमोदनमा माओबादीहरुले बलियो जरा गाढिसकेको छ, पहिला केहि थिए आज बिशाल भइसकेको छ ( "नेपाल" साप्ताहिक गतिबिधि पनि हेर्नुहोला)  । सोझा जन र जाती मात्र होइन पढेका बिद्वानहरुको मतिलाइ पनि केही समय नशालु बनाइराख्नु प्रचण्डपथको आश्चर्यता हो । फलत सम्पूर्ण लोकतन्त्रबादीहरु कटवाललाइ समातेर झुण्डनु परने बाध्यता आजको परिस्थिति बनेको छ।  संसद प्रति उत्तरदायित्व सैनिक सरकार केहि समयका लागि त मैले भनेका थिए, के हामि सबै एउटै बिन्दुमा आइपुग्यौ त? होइन भने यो भद्रगोलको निकाशा त्यति सहज जस्तो लाग्दैन। अर्को, याँहा राष्ट्रिय सेनाको मात्रै उल्लेख देखियो,  भिडियोमा नेपालीहरुको सबैभन्दा चित्त कटक्क खाने प्रचण्डको(कुटिल हाँसो सहित) रक्तरन्जित पन्जी स्किम हो जस्तो लाग्दछ, किनभने भलै त्यसलाइ जोक्स नै मानौ तर यस्तो दिलै रुवाउने जोक्स त कहिल्यै देखिएको सुनिएको थिइन।

 
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Many moons ago there was one poster whose name I forgot. He was warning Nepe that he's being too hopeful on the Maoists, and leading others to blindly follow the maoist. He had said that one day Nepe would have to say "laaaa i made a mistake, I was wrong about them". It seems like that day has come. Congratulations Nepe for realizing this nearly 3 or 4 years after someone had rightfully predicted that you would.
 
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It's shocking to find myself agreeing with Nepe on the President & Katuwal. Under normal conditions civilian supremacy makes sense. But isn't Nepal in "transition"? Given the choice between living under the YCL goons, plus the PLA murders and Maoist control of the army on the one hand and, on the other, making difficult choices in this period, the answer is clear: no more appeasement of these Maoist terrorists. They should be treated no differently to the LTTE.
 
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when I googled NEPE!

http://sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=64701

http://guild.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&forum=300&threadid=63906

but now, I welcome his views.

 
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One more point:

I am strongly against of how India acted for the Army Chief. I am bound to feel whether we are an independent country! If Prachanda would not have been blind of his communist vision perhaps his action could have been supportive just to tell to India to stay away. However, I am ready to choose the continuation of Indian domination over communist conspiracy. My country is independent, I am citizen of an independent country. I have right of speech and freedom of politics. I am ready to wait for the leader who will challange the Indian dominance. I don't want communist rule because it is horrible. It is a failed idea. I can not find peace under gun.   

 
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What should Maoists have done in the press conference? My views.


Prachanda should have first realized, after the release of the video, that he does not have luxury of time to be wrong. He had a great opportunity to prove his recorded rhetorics in the video as wrong because "Water in Bagmati has moved very far."


Unfortunately, Water moved ahead, but Prachanda remained standstill and his templates mentioned in the video matched his every move in last 16 months. His visions in video perfectly matched his actions. His supporters and opponents, both will agree on this.


Thus, the video released was so timely (video release is a right action at right time) that people came to know who is Maoists, particularly Prachanda, and how far can we trust him. Trust is the only thing we can not or should not lose, and once we lose it, it is very costly and time consuming to get it back but with some scars and doubts still hanging and chasing us. Now, Prachanda will be trusted by no other than his skin head cadres. In real world, he is now a great lier and most untrustworthy person. His statements will always raise questions on UN's attempt to handle similar case elsewhere.  UN will also got BadName "Badnaam"


 People were about to give him good credit for his instant resignation on the issue, but he will also be discredited for not letting the house run smoothly and people will consider it as another trick as a part of the same visioin that Prachanda explained in his notorous video.


From now onward, people will connect Prachanda's every action to this video. In such a situation, TIME magazine in its one of the issue about a month ago asked people to follow Japanese style, "Go To Public", and apologize without hesitation, say, "I am sorry" or carry out Harakiri or commit sucide by hanging for self respect to avoid further public humiliation. Well, thats the Japanese culture, not Nepali culture. Prachanda always said, "They (other parties) did it, why not me." and appointed his just high-school pass son to Saha-Sachib Position (the position that educated Nepalis dream for life long, and work hard to reach there).


Time Magazine further adds some people in US consider that "I am sorry" is equal to confessing "I have done something illegal" instead of "I have done something unethical, and immoral, but not illegal", and scared to say so because they area also afraid to be sued and are forced to pay compensation or face punishment. In Nepal, the second part does not exist: punishing someone based on the public apology. I never heard, so.


Those who say, "I am sorry," people usually forgive them (attorney general may or may not forgive such person if there is some action: illegal). The issue even if it is raised later by the opponents, makes no sense to public because the person has already apologized, and to promote such apology in future as well, people don't chase the guys for that muted issue.


Maoists in last press conference, should have apologized instead of claiming that it will raise their height. In civilized society, such claims bring your image further down. You should have thought that people are smart enough to understand this much. Prachanda always tells that "Dimag le chakkar khancha" as if he is the only intelligent person in the world to understand his rhetorics.


Prachanda and his cronies in the last press conference, were very arrogant, and it might have worked in their constituency, but it does not work in common citizens' mind who may not be the direct beneficiary of the Maoist Propaganda.


I believe that the Maoists would have benefitted if they had simply said, "We are sorry, we were learning at that time, and situation was fluid, and we made mistakes in that training session. We have tried our best since than, and we are still learning to move in the competitive democracy, instead of running rhetoric - Mero Goruko Barhai takka." Prachanda even added that he had said such things in several occasions, and it was without any shame.


Prachanda might come back, but he won't have the same strength, courage, and personality. No body can trust him or should trust him as long as he does not endorse that his statements in the video were wrong, and he should not have said it.


Anyway, it is time to move ahead. Now, Maoists should allow others to form government if they want to protect the image that is left in their hand. If they miss the opportunity, then it will also be considered as part of the game explained in the video.


 
Posted on 05-07-09 10:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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GPji,


I wish I were/could be in the same boat with you and other friends. Unfortunately, I had to travel alone in my lonely boat throughout my journey. The reason is simple. The boat you and many Sajhaites (and our political parties, for 9 long years, 1996-2005) were/are in is fitted with a canon that has been firing DISMISSILE (total dismissal) at Maoist throughout.


The anti-Maoist DISMISILE never worked, and will never work.


What will work, then?


If one listens to what Prachanda said in the video carefully, he can figure out what might work. What I am saying is this: If we (whoever) play the same game that Prachanda is playing with us with him now, we can win the game. No we don’t need to play the game of PLA and YCL. But we need to play all other games he has been playing with us.


 


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Mr. Truth,


माओवादीले जितेको कारण तपाईले भन्नुभएको जस्तो माओवादी किल्ला (शुभेच्छुक समेत) बलियो भएर होईन माओवादीसंग लड्नेहरुको किल्ला कमजोर (वैचारिक, नैतिक, र भिजन मा) भएर भएको हो ।


र त्यो किल्ला अझ पनि कमजोर छ र त्यो बलियो नबनाईकन अहिले पनि माओवादीलाई हराउन सम्भव छैन । अनि मैले भनें नि, त्यो किल्लाबाट हान्ने dismissile ले काम गर्नेवाला छैन । त्यो भन्दा धेरै sophisticated हतियार र त्यसको कुशल संचालन आवश्यक छ ।


 


Nepe


 


 


 



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