Hey! all ladies out there.. Let us hear some of the things youýve done (would do) that makes you think it's a girl thing!(not being corny). Some of mine cliques would be: -Hair do ( esp before night-outs) -Make-up ( it's in every girlýs gene) -Overlook guys trying to come closer **wink** -Pulling guy's leg (damn! they always pick on us) -Shopping mania (shopping like a pro) -Gossips ( Hush! Hush!) - Flashy car :P Ashley!

Damn guys stop fighting.
Confused leave my Sitara alone, she is only mine.

prem charo? baulayo...

sitara_ko_charo
U.S.A

wearing a sari doesn't make u more nepali and wearing a "micro mini" damn welll aint gonna make u more american...

sweetie..not trying to sound mean but your arguments have absolutely no "dum"
and why go off on tangent about politics when u don't have anything rational to say....jus doesn't make sense...

confused auntie, as sitara points out you are generalizing the exceptions based on your limited views.critisicms is a part and parcel of anybodys life and so are the personal views.
give you a small example.bush and kerry have 2 different plans for health care in america is not it.and both are trying to hard to show mistakes on each others plan.and also the abortion thing,war,educational system blah blah ........both might have some weaknesses in their respective plans.so why dont you tell them both bush and kerry or the one who's paln you think is not right that not accepting mistakes are the thing limited only to a nepali and not any american.
what i mean is there are people who dont accept their mistakes and that applies everywhere even in your country the united states of america not only in nepal.
but alas its differnet for some neps in america.you guys have a neprican glass in your eyes and hence you see different from what others seee .bhadau ma ankha futeko goru ley jailey ni hariyo dekhcha.............

chori bhancha ladies zone, choro bhancha ledas zone, bichmaa adkeko haru bhanncha gay porn......baaki bheda ra geda jati...kumlo boki thimi tira......bijuli ko taar dil maa bhayo aar ya paar....timro hirdaya ko dhoka kholi malai sutuka pasnadeau naa......timro ghar ko aajan maa tulsi bhayera basne chu..................................( stop),,ajkal taa kaa tulsi bhayera pani basna paicha....tulsi( sage) herbs in english.............very good with chicken and mayo sandwhich......sage really brings flavour to your roast chicken and duck breast....u can also marinate it with pork loin and bake it. Looking for nepali breed of sage( tulshi) another avtaar of lord vishnu when he try to screw someones wife in shake of indra,,,,,, he actually slept with the gal ( goma is her name) then she find out it was not his husband it was vishu...then she crushed him to be a tulsi for some years.....life is funny. I like this ladies zone where entering i found ladies zone................................danger zone...make sure to wear socks, trousers,.......... shirts and also condum so it is clean............... Well, never seen sweetpie like her talking for bitter melons favour....................lady croft eating chinese seafood at peak tower, hk, ashley......making curry in home and watching us in net......
sitara.............chettrini..............modified chettri with critisim brain
well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what am i talking about? am i back...............no no no way............i am out of this drug.....shit........oh my croissant in oven.......jesus.....i told myself to get off this drug.....jesus my muffins and croissant....

जति जे भनेपनि आखिर बच्चा पाउने काम केटीले गर्नुपर्छ।
केटाहरु मुला गऊ नदेऊ ।
मिरा दिदी बधाइ!

Can't believe all of u really are making this fashion topic out of proportion aren't u? "Confused" is right....u all don't have the ability to accept the truth! Now because I wear fashionable clothes and don't find nepali clothes comfortable that makes me anti-nepali and dumb and bad girl ? What??? It's ridiculous! What a misconception u all have! I am telling the truth why is it so hard to accept it for u guys.........put dress subject aside........nobody even bothered to comment on the my main point about learning from american women about their qualities( independence, brain, ability to make her own decisions in life etc). The truth is whatever they wear nepali women aren't independent, strong, nor has capabilities to choose their own husband, job, careers etc. U all know this.......why ignore it then? U should all be saying oh yeah, it's because women aren't allowed to be educated in the first place therefore they don't have skills, they are forced to get married very early and have kids right away.......their lives end that way. Just admiring our very wrong society whether it involves dress code (men can wear western clothes whereas women are seen as bad if they don't wear their traditional clothes), arranged marriage (it's the most important decision in a person's life and they don't get to choose their husband how sad is that), domination of womenkind (domestic violence, dowry system etc) takes us nowhere. If u really support these issues then what can I say? Sitara points out that my judgement is not educated. Where as she also mentions about wearing a sexy black dress on occasions......what a conflicting view? Why do u think that? I am infact very educated and hold a really good job and I am very progressive too. Don't just assume that these sajha readers are admiring u means u are the only educated and brilliant woman. Who cares what some of these readers think? For example Pisces is insulting me by bringing very personal subject about my husband and father just because I didn't agree with him in another thread and he still wants to get back to me. Do u think I care about these guys........there are so many dumb guys who thinks, "Men are dominated by women" or "People in Nepal have enough to eat" etc. I can tell u whoever wrote these lines in another thread are against me in this thread...........following and mocking me in every thread so I think they better learn to debate and not be so defensive all the time. I knew I would get attacked by you all but didn't know u would reach this much out of the topic to insult me!

Look Aisha, if u have read the whole thread u probably should be able to understand what I meant by white people. The "white people" doesn't mean nepalese living in USA...alright! We nepalese are called immigrants. Everybody used that term therefore I used that too. I meant all the people who have lived here all their lives......why is it so hard? U should be able to understand by now! I went on about politics with Andolan because he brought politics to challenge me. Now don't tell me I don't have political knowledge......I am an activist dear! U are judging me by the way I dress aren't u? I think u better get to know a person better before u pass your judgement. I am no less than u or any other person here in terms of education, brain, skills etc. I am not trying to be an american but yeah I am trying to learn their strong qualities...... but fashion is my own choice whether I wear western or nepali.......just because u don't wear or like western clothes doesn't mean everybody who wears them are dumb. Think that through.....and keep that in mind!

Moneyminded, are oyu STILL stuck @ the peak tower?
and NO I am not sharing my chinese food with you !

Sweetipie,

You are bringing one more extra thing on your new posting. I would like to comment on dowry system. My dear , do you know how much is average wedding cost in United states? Its 21, 000 dollar. If you don?t believe me, do some research? Even in this country, People spend money to show off, especially for wedding. Lot of people charge their entire credit cards or take some loan to get married and most of them get end up in divorce. Both have to suffer from debt all their life. Could you tell me what?s difference between dowry and this thing? At least, Nepalese are getting rid of dowry and it mostly happens in south part of country. What about spending 21,000 for their wedding and suffer from debt all their life.

You said? I am infact very educated and hold a really good job and I am very progressive too.?

Hey sweetie, Are you looking a job or something? No one will give shit if you tell that you are educated, progressive and blah.. blah? . People know by their thinking and writings too. Who cares about your job? What you mean good job? What is good or bad? Work is work, no matter what it is?

No matter how you would like to think about yourselves? You do have problem with Nepalese people and you still have big typical nepali thinking about job like you have good job; your friends have good job, Are you advertising yourselves? Sorry, no one will buy it??

( Just curious, I know it?s really personnel but I would like to ask you. Did you get your paper by marring white guy? I hope you will be honest on this question.

[What??? It's ridiculous! What a misconception u all have! I am telling the truth why is it so hard to accept it for u guys.........put dress subject aside........nobody even bothered to comment on the my main point about learning from american women about their qualities( independence, brain, ability to make her own decisions in life etc). The truth is whatever they wear nepali women aren't independent, strong, nor has capabilities to choose their own husband, job, careers etc. ]

Yes Sweetie jiu lets put the clothing subject aside.... but i have to again strongly disargree here with you---" my main point about learning from american women about their qualities( independence, brain, ability to make her own decisions in life etc)"--- Why do you think nepali or any other country's women have to learn these qualities frm american women???? Dont you think Nepali women are equally talented or brilliant if they are given an opportunity to prove themselves?? And talking about independence you dont inherit it by being an american women or copying them but society plays a bigger role in that case, so please lets not blame nepali women for it....

All i have to say is ..there is way too much generalization in your postings...but oh well thats your opinion so.....

And hey Rythm... I felt really bad after hearing your situation, btw what was your reply to him when he said, "tan american ko ki k ho thaah chaina.. ma ta nepali ho.. ani nepali keta le kai gardaina... keti le sabai ghar ko kaam garnu parchha!!" I mean i cannot imagine if your own cousin or brother will treat like that to their siblings... then what can we expect frm others???? Well if i was you i would have gave him a big slap and said "timi america ko ho ki kaa ko ho malai thaha chhaina tara ma ta nepali ho ani nepali keti lai respect nagarne lai esari nai jawaf dinu parchha..."

Peace!! It indeed is a bizarre world....

hey bizarre, if u see it carefully, I am not blaming nepali women but the society itself. Look carefully before u do you blah blah!

mahakaal first of all, i am not AUntie but a UNCLE..second you missed my point..

"The truth is whatever they wear nepali women aren't independent, strong, nor has capabilities to choose their own husband, job, careers etc. U all know this.......why ignore it then?" Sweetiepie

My dear Sweetiepie, try applying a Truth Table on your statement. Now, if you are as educated as you claim to be you will obviously know that using absolutes such as "the truth is", "Nepali women", "don't have capabilities to choose their own husband, job, careers" will reduce your argument into a false statement. Have you ever in your "educated "lifetime taken a TRUE or FALSE test?! Are you even aware of true or false premises... I believe it falls under LOGIC 101. Might wanna re-visit your education.

Sorry, but your arguments are nothing but labels, loose terms and consistant harping of some vague Utopian American bubble hanging in vaccum.

Hey Redstone! But ofcourse, I remember you. That was one helluva night of dancing wasn't it? :)

"I am an activist dear! U are judging me by the way I dress aren't u? I think u better get to know a person better before u pass your judgement."

Congratulations...u're an activist...a big woopdeeedooooo.....

"white meant people who live in USA.....that includes, hispanics, blacks, and asians"
^i think nepalese are asians aren't they?so are they whte? so if i was born and raised here then does that mean i'm white?

no i'm not judging u by the way u dress dummy...i'm not judging anything or anyone...i jus didn't agree with what u had to say about...white ppl...u basically made it sound that everyone else is inferior to the white folk...putting them up on a pedestal and what not...for all the goddam wrong reasons....that irks me...you had such baseless arguments in your posts about politics and everything else and u still do....sorry sweetie but it jus seems like u're trying way too hard..

i'm jus saying why put "white" womenon a pedestal....we nepaliese wome can hold our ownn too...

and how can u assume that i don't wear western clothes hun.....isn't that passing a judgement?....jus coz i can defend myself wearing a sari doesn't mean i'mm a wear it to catch the red line to metro center.....


sitara....i second that notion......

hmm.. i'm jus here to comment on wut sweetie pie said. Although i dont agree with everything she says she does make some valid points.. but i'm not here to agree..i'm here to disagree... you keep saying "you are judging me by the way i dress".. but at the same your comment on women wearing sari was followed up by your comparison to white girls as being more smart, independent etc. so wut are we supposed to interpret that as? you are the one who judges any sari/kurtha wearing indiv as being passive, unintelligent, not outspoken and such. You are giving our cultural "luga" a negative connotation. Why do women need to necessarily follow the western fashion to be viewed as being progressive? wut about our nepali politicians and policewomen who wear saris.. udont think they're assertive, dominant and outspoken?? speakin of "white" ppl being this that and the other... i dont even want to get into that.. its like "americans" saying that anyone who doesnt speak perfect english and wear western attire are uncivilized, unintelligent, and "lagging" behind.. BUT i do agree about your thoughts on marriage, gay parade stuff, abortion n stuff... good points..but some bad ones too

dammn ..redstone gott to dance with SITARAA..

Sitara, when will you dance with me??

This reply doesn't have to be long but as I have so many people to get back to........I have to write all this........Well andolan, let me tell u a thing or two.....there is a huge difference between dowry system and people spending 21,000 in marriage. Americans spend money to celebrate and honeymoon. Wives don't have to cry when they get married rather they look very happy. The concept of dowry is not only about money but also importantly about the sentiment behind it. Women actually have to fear after they get married than when they are in their parent's house. The fact that u think dowry is all right is sensational to me! What a orthodox dude! Dowry is like selling your daughter to a stranger.......and on top of that fearing your daughter will be mistreated or killed if u can't provide the groom with his demand. Is that called marriage?? Yes my wedding cost more than that therefore I know better than u! how about $ 21,000 in US means $21,000 in Nepali? Nepalese spend wayyy more than Rs. 21,000 in a wedding if they have money. Not only that they have to save a lot just for dowry dear.....that's why parents prefer boys instead of girls remember? It's the main reason.......dowry! That 21,000 is shared by bride and groom, groom's parents and bride's parents.in US....now that's not a lot is it? Who said they have to suffer to pay for their weddings ha? They have more tuition debt from their school than wedding silly! Average americans make at least 50,000 or more a year....so if they save up that's not that much get it? Unless they want to marry like a movie star.....haha. Is the dowry system away in Nepal no dude it might take 20 years. I am amazed by your comment! And by the way whether u like it or not......I already have a fantastic job........ofcourse I get no value front of all of u because I have a different view....but learn to be little open minded! Just because I don't have a same view like me doesn't make me dumb........But asking personal question does make u a very weak fellow dear! Mind your own business! Ofcourse that's what a typical nepali mind like u thinks right? No dear I had my green card way before I even met him! Did I satisfy your curiosity or do u want to peep around my personal life little more?

Sitara, ofcourse u would label me as an idiot right......But I do have MBA for your info and can still teach u a thing or two in fashion and how to change your narrow mind to a little open one. You really think u are all that don't u? Only your views are awesome and significant right? How pathetic is that? Learn to appreciate drastic views too..... Well.....I don't admire it dear....more and more I read your views...I feel like u are conservative but likes to wear a sexy black dress time to time hmmm.....why don't u stick to your conservativeness all the time then....why are u going back and forth?? Don't be so over the top! Just because I have a different view point doesn't make me wrong and anti-Nepali remember that. U all think the same way. And ofcourse find me stupid because I oppose your views. Nobody even bothers to mention the truth about nepali society. No matter what that society does that is always great for u......I would actually admire a person here who has the capability to present different view points than same old crap. U know when people talk against the government....they fear about people calling them anti-patriotic or a communist. People are so patriotic sometimes they blindfold themselves on how the government is handling itself. I really feel like I am among those nepalese patriotics who can't take a simple truth. If I say a simple comment on Nepal oh u all have made me into this unpatriotic nepali haven't u? Well, this all won't change my view about the reality. REALITY BITES! That makes me laugh! LOL....Therefore I have no problem u calling me "whatever" or finding my ideas less "Nepali". Sometimes u need to look hard and realize it and accept it. The reality of that statement is that nepali women don't have the capability right not because they are not allowed to exercise this by the society. Yes, they don't have the power to decide about their major decisions in life. Do I need to walk u around these issues too....it's glaring at u.....can't u see? I hadn't expected anything better from u anyway.......u might find my labels vague, but reality is front of your eyes and if u choose to ignore and run with your own one way mind then no wonder u can never see what's on the other side........ If everybody has the same opinion then what's the use of these threads?

Thanks aisha, for congratulating me for being an activist! I did talk about politics because I know a lot about it....get it? Let me know if I was wrong with my political talk! Be my judge....Okay okay enough about your white issue.....are u that dumb to get it?? Yes, if u were born and raised with american values u would be an american. Ofcourse u would find my arguments baseless. and let me tell u I find yours the same way.......I hadn't expected a praise from u. Who cares what u think.....fact of the matter is yes I don't hesitate to have a drastic opinion between all of u .I like to tell the truth instead of praising of our very wrong society.

Iced mocha, Nepali women are raised and taught to grow up in a very sheltered way. They have to be coy, conservative etc. Keep in mind, I am not blaming women here....but the society itself. The need for these women to follow western women mindset is to be more independent than depending on men, so that they can choose their own husbands, make their own career and life decisions and wear whatever the hell they want.... I am not pointing fingers on women who wear sari saying that they are dumb but infact some people have commented that if I am fashionable and modern I am idle and dumb. Is that fair judgement? Let me tell u our nepali policewomen can use a pant or two don't u think. How can they run to catch a theif dear? Let's be little practical here! Thanks for your comment though!

Are u all happy to turn lady's fashion thread into full blown war between Nepal and USA and what not? It tells u how far people go to put the other person down.......No wonder nepalese are known to pull each others legs instead of progressing themselves.....u all have proved it! CONGRATULATIONS!

Hare parvu, waaka diika bhai sake you purush ra nari ko bich ko ladai dekhera. Mera bichar maa sabai " god should make all the women men and all the men women for just a 24 hours to experience how it is to best". There will be solution neither there will be (sweetpie ( future sujata koirala, saileja acharya, sahana pardhan, and that lady from maiti nepal).

jai hos pravu

we love gals and respect them as well..............................there is no doubt and we will love our wiives so much that we dont mind being there slaves too.,.

"Confused", isn't this so sad Nepali like you and me have to live with inferiority complex.. Ya you said right about weakness -- that is our weakness, our self dominent attitude. Sorry dude, I can't take that was granted.. Yes I am in US doesn't necessarily me I should VOW with American..

Sweetie you wrote --"Pisces is insulting me by bringing very personal subject about my husband and father just because I didn't agree with him in another thread and he still wants to get back to me". Sweetie, I am sorry if I have hurt u by draging ur hobby in the thread. But I got not intention to disrespect his existence, noway. Again my apology. But Sweetie, it is not the continuation of another thread, don't get me wrong.. You were the first to rise same topics about "Men dominating Women in Nepal", that means you were down to the earth to prove somehow Nepali Men are an Ass..and I opposed that ..

Sweetie you tried every possible way to be imposive, I guess it didn't work. You said why people don't want to understand what you trying to convey. Would you have given some rational judgement than your biased view, everybody could have understood.

Learing from others is good thing, there is nothing wrong. But you mandated that every single nepali woman has to learn from American woman to be civilized. Why you putting American on dais and have them bless over us? They are blessing aren't they?

You have been so aggressive pointing out wrong system and society in Nepal, but why can't you see changes too.. If you are talkin about Women dominance in society then should also talk about positive changes.. As a results there are there are lots of Nepali educated like you, are here and there. As an example every now and then girls like you, every now then come voice here in Sajha.

Sweetie, Compare Nepal with America - America is richest and most powerful country in the world. They have control over majority of media thats why there influences are obvious. Now, imagine Nepal being most powerful and richest country (which is absolutely not possible) and everything (area, population) remains same, today a SARI could have replaced a SKIRT. I guess you understand what I mean. I am not mandating nepali lady to wear Sari but the way you were linking fashion with plight of Nepali Women sounds to me like some sort of humor.

You said --"Nepali women are raised and taught to grow up in a very sheltered way. They have to be coy, conservative etc. Keep in mind, I am not blaming women here....but the society itself." Its not just the problem in Nepal, every single third world country has same issue. And even in America. There is no magic stick that change society with 'Abracadabra'. Wait a minute tell me onething, is only possible way to change our conservative society is to make our women learn for American women? Am I to the point? Infact there are American women you voice against abortion, aren't there ? Oh no you said there are few conservative American women who think like that..Well then the in world you can't take the fact, there are few conservative women in Nepal society too ??

Sweetie you are MBA? I guess it didn't help here ? We have nothing to do with ur MBA. I am MBA too, so what ? I don't think any sajhathis care about my MBA. BTW I didn't read anywhere in my MBA that "I AM NEPALI AND TO BE CIVILIZED I HAVE LEARN AMERICAN WAY".. Look Sweetie, I like American and America too -- I don't hate them. Yes learn from them and let them learn from me too. But I never let myself down infront of them.

Eti Shree...




P.S: I may be making you guys laugh, I just watched Farenhiet 9/11 today, but I found little exageration in it. Overall plot was good thou.. Any comments ?