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Posted on 04-16-06 5:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Firstly, I support the protest again autocratic Gyane and his puppet government. But kantipur media's new about the protest program is very unethical and questionable. This unethical broadcast has given bad name to the protest program itself. Kantipur should realize that and stop the false bogus news. Some of the false news spread by kantipur

1) On ocasions they have show clip and pictures of 2046 as current event to misguide people.
2) On ocasions they have used clips of previous day as news even of current day.
3) Most of their mass meeting pictures are Photoshoped. ( Please see the attached picture of today, if you look care fully you can see copy of paste of same person at many places)


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Posted on 04-16-06 10:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I bet Prajatantra bro spent his whole damn day to figure out two similarities in the picture.
There are a lot wearing red , whole lot with blue , and white, the context here is not about the similar color worn by people, the context here is to have a government for success (LOKTANTRA). As a whole there is just one person with one demand , so you can claim the whole crowd as a one voice, one nation one man .

Posted on 04-16-06 10:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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तँ जस्ता सिल्ली ले जे बोल्यो तेही पत्याउछन् सबैले भन्ठान्या छस् कि क्या हो, गोरु?
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there is nothing wrong with the pic in kantipur. Its so sad to see so many sajha basi just believing gyane's chamcha - the bastard prajatantra.

Sabaile kagale kan lagyo bhanera kagako pachhi hiddainan.

Kantipur rocks! Gyane and his chamchas suck
Posted on 04-16-06 10:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Problem with thread like this is that people who don't go over rest of the postings, actually believe the title. It is our responsibility to do enough homeworks, before making such an allegation. You actually had me fool for a while.

Did you care to notice that THE TWO GUYS IN THE RED CIRCLES HAVE DIFFERENT SLEEVES? One gus has full sleeve shirt, the other has rolled up or half. The two girls, as many oversvers said, have different color saris and are in different position. If I were a photoshop editor, I wouldn't go so much trouble as "rolling up" there sleeves.

Posted on 04-16-06 10:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I guess that there was some confusion on what I posted earlier.

अलि फोटोसप के चलाऊन जाने छ सबै अनौथो फोटोलाई फोटोसप भन्छ

I zoomed the picture with circles that prajatantra posted to show that it was not the photo edit work and is in fact real.
Posted on 04-16-06 10:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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हैन, केदारजीले भने जस्तै, त्यस्तो फोटो एडिट गर्ने जरुरत किन पर्छ कान्तिपुरलाई यार? अफिसको झ्यालबाट यसो क्यामारा क्लिक गरे जनसागर खिचिने बेलामा फोटोसप चलाएर के समय खेर फाल्ने? लोकतन्त्रको बिपक्षमा भएको भए त्यस्तो भीडको फोटो नै छाप्थेन होला नि!
Posted on 04-16-06 11:04 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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मैले माथी गरेको कमेन्ट प्रजातन्त्र भन्ने साथीको विपक्षमा हैन। म उहाँलाई धेरै पहिले देखि चिन्छु- साझावाट मात्र है फेरी।

उहाँका धेरै पोष्टहरु नेपालमा लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्रका लागि उपयोगि छन् र म उहाँको प्रशंशक पनि हुँ। नामैले पनि उहाँ मलाई अति अति प्रिय लाग्छ। उहाँलाई यहाँ कसैले ज्ञानेको अथवा कमलेको मान्छे भन्लान्, त्यो मलाई मान्य छैन। उहाँ प्रजातन्त्रवादी हो र रहिरहनु हुनेछ।

अब रह्यो कान्तिपुरलाई उहाँले लगाउनु भएको कपिलकल्पित लान्छानाको कुरा। मेरो विचारमा उहाँलाई कान्तिपुरको सानो कुरा निकालेर मन्डले भन्न पाईँदैन। उहाँको रगतमा नै प्रजातन्त्र घुसेको छ। उहाँ जन्मजात प्रजातन्त्रबादी हो। त्यसैले उहाँले जोसमा आएर कान्तिपुरमाथी गर्नु भएको टिप्पणीलाई लिएर हामीले उहाँ माथी नै अविश्बास चाहिँ गर्नु हुन्न है फेरी।

फेरी माथिकै पोष्टमा भने जस्तै "सानातिना गल्तिले कसैलाई होच्याएर नबोलौँ। सुद्रने मौका दिउँ।"

मलाई विश्वास छ, प्रजातन्त्रजीले सबैका सामु आफ्नो गल्तिलाई महसुस गर्नु हुनेछ।

जनरल (गोतामेजी, जनरल क्या जनरल माने सिम्पल--- जर्नेल हैन है!)
Posted on 04-16-06 11:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thank you for your concern. I am still with Loktantrik andolan and support it 100% both from my heart and head.

But, I do not want Kantipur to use this Loktantrik andolan as their revenge against Gyane for sending Kishor Shiroya to jail. Our nepalese brother and sister and flowing their blood for democratic Nepal not for Kantipur's revenge.

Here is the reason why we should stop kantipur's unethical reporting before it is too late,

1) Since they are showing fake things, people are not believing at what is happening really?
Why do you think most of KTM / Patan and Bhaktapur is still sleeping because they say this is "media andolan" and the reason is false news by media.

How do we get right to criticize Rising Nepal for saying " lawyer snatch the gun and shot was fired by accident" , if kantipur starts showign 2046 clips and claim it to be current event.

I am just asking journalist esp. in Kantipur to be clean and not to mess up our big movement just for their own revenge.
Posted on 04-16-06 11:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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किशोर सिरोया हैन "कैलास शिरोहिया" चहिँ होला। कान्तिपुर र ज्ञानेन्द्रका विचमा धेरै दुश्मनीहरु छन्। सबैलाई लेख्ने हो भने र एउटा किताबै तयार हुन्छ होला।

तपाईँले कान्तिपुरको कमीकमजोरी औंल्याउन मज्ज्जाले पाउनु हुन्छ, प्रमाणसहित। तर यसपटक तपाईले दिनु भएको कमेन्टमा प्रमाण पुगेन। तपाईँहाम्रो कान्तिपुर माथीको हल्का कमेन्टले लोकतान्त्रिक आन्दोलनलाई चाहिँ आघात नपुगोस्, त्यतातिर पनि अलिकति ध्यान दिउँ।

Posted on 04-16-06 11:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Anyway I give up may be I was wrong, but I am being cautious with kantipur given their past track. I can believe the news in Himal, Jana Astha, Samachar Patra by just reading their article. But for kantipur I never do until I verify from some other source.

The loss of faith with Kantipur was whole CIAA episode they played. It was Kantipur who started the strom of CIAA by diging in Chiranjivi Wagle's ilegal wealth and forcing CIAA to take action eventhough Wagle was minister at that time.

But when Kishor Shirowa got in trouble for Kantipur TV deal they took complete U turn and started criticizing everything about CIAA. For me that is not professional journalism.

But I guess in the world of commercial journalism these kind of things happen.

I just hate biased journalism like FOX .. or any one else
Posted on 04-16-06 11:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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we need to realize that everything going on in nepal is a big indian propaganda and kantipur publications has been their biggest mouthpiece. it is also worth mentioning that most of the international news wire receive their news about nepal via india / indian publications.

so go figure!
Posted on 04-16-06 11:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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General, thanks for correction. Yes Kailash Shiroya not Kishor Shiroya.

I was just trying to be over cautious about preventing kantipur or leaders or maoist or any one else to use this movement for their personal benifit.

The out come should be a all party goverment and voting on constitutional assembly.

We nepalese only have right to choose what we want, not SPA not Maoist not King or not any one else.
Posted on 04-16-06 11:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"We nepalese only have right to choose what we want, not SPA not Maoist not King or not any one else"
SPA, maoistis and their sympathizers and the royalists are allll nepalis.100%. the solution is to come to a coherent conclusion between teh three interests...actually monarchy is obsolete. whether we like it or not, SPA and moaists will be our leaders in teh future. so either one of you who keeps complaining about SPA and moiasts, come out and lead the country; natra bhane stop khutta taning one another, stop complaining about corruption and learn to cooperate with what comes in our plates....
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I think Prajanatra must have been laid off by kantipur...I think he is trying to revenge kantipur..haha
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Well lfc123, i agree they are 100% nepalese, tara they do not have right to dictate what is right for us. They should let us vote on what we want, and serve us as a leader.

Not dictate us like Shah and Ranas have been done and are doing.
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SPAs are our leaders, prachanda and baburam are our leaders..i mean they will be.. eventually. as long as they serve the interests of our country and the peoples, i will support them. if maoists establish a communist regime, then like i said before, its really over. we wil lbe worse off then king's regime. if they do agree to co-oprate with parties, we have a long, road hard ahead of us, but we will still be on our way up.
well mr. prajatantra, i gotta go.
good night!
Posted on 04-17-06 4:08 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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*प्रजातन्त्रजी माथीको तश्विरमा मानिसहरुको सहभागितालाई ठूलो देखाउन फोटशपको दुरुपयोग भएको छैन भन्ने कुरा त तपाईंले बुझिसक्नुभयो। तर प्रकाशन पत्रकारिता - प्रेस र अनलाइनमा फोटोको अवलवकनलाई प्रभावकारी बनाउन केहि चमकधमक गर्ने छुट अवश्य छ। विश्वको जुनसुकै संचार माध्यामले पनि तश्विर प्रकाशन गर्दा सामान्य सम्पादनका लागि फोटोशपको प्रयोग गर्न सक्छन र गरिरहेका हुन्छन, तर खिचिएको तश्विरको गुणस्तर हेरेर कम बेसी सम्पादन हुन्छ वा कहिलेकाहीं दुरुस्तै छापिएको पनि हुनसक्छ।

*टेलिभिजन पत्रकारितामा सबै घटनाहरुको फुटेज प्राप्त गर्नु झण्डै असम्भव कुरा हो। त्यसैले मिल्दोजुल्दो विषयमा आर्काइभबाट पूराना फुटेजहरु निकालेर प्रशारण गर्नु पूर्णतया स्वभाविक हुन्छ। बीबीसी, सिएनएन, अल-जजीरा जस्ता नेटवर्कले पनि प्रसस्त मात्रामा पूराना फुटेजहरु देखाइरहेका हुन्छन। र यसमा टेलिभिजनको साधन स्रोतको पनि भूमिका हुन्छ। समाचारको उद्गमस्थलबाट, घटना घटेको समयमै लिइएको दृश्य भएसम्म कसैले आर्काइभ खोज्न चाहदैन। नभएपछि मिल्दोजुल्दो फुटेज प्रशारण गर्नु स्वभाविक हो। पूराना तश्विर र श्रव्य सामाग्रीको पुन:प्रकाशन/प्रशारण सन्दर्भ हेरेरे पत्रिका,अनलाइन र रेडियोमा समेत हुन्छ।

*तश्वरमा फोटोशप मात्रै होइन,समाचारको टेक्स्ट, श्रव्य/दृश्य सामाग्रीको पीच/लेवल/ब्राइटनेस/जुम/ मिक्सिङ/काँटछाँट आदि गुणस्तर वृद्धि र सम्पादनका लागि विभिन्न शफ्टवेयरको प्रयोग गर्नु व्यवसायिक पत्रकारिताको एउटा पक्ष हो।

*जहाँसम्म अख्तियार प्रकरणको कुरा छ, नीजी लगानीको पत्रिका भएकाले आफ्नो संलग्नता भएका प्रकरणहरुमा संस्थागत स्वार्थ संरक्षण गर्ने क्रममा केहि सूचनालाई लुकाउने वा तोडमोड गर्ने काम कान्तिपुरले नगरेको होला भन्न सकिन्न। यस्तो काम पश्चिमा प्रकाशनहरुबाट पनि भैरहेको हुन्छ। खाली कुन स्तरमा भन्ने कुरा महत्वपूर्ण हो। यदि अति नै गरियो भने सम्वन्धित मिडियाले आफै साख गुमाउन पुग्छ। स्तर निर्धारण गर्ने काम लक्षित दर्शक, श्रोता, पाठकको हो। तर निजी मिडियामा conflict of interest बढिनै आइपर्नसक्छ।

यसो भन्दैमा कैलाश सिरोहियामाथी कारवाही गरिएकाले कान्तिपुर राजा विरोधी निक्लेको हो भनि गम्भीर आरोप लगाउनु वा संशय गर्नु त्यहाँ कार्यरत सैयौं पत्रकारहरुको व्यवसायिकतामाथी लांछना लगाउनु हो। कान्तिपुर नेपालका शिक्षित युवा पेशेवरहरुको एउटा प्रतिनिधी संस्था हो त्यसैले उसका प्रकाशन/ प्रशारणमा युवा जनमत अभिव्यक्त भैरहेको हुन्छ भन्ने वुझ्न जरुरी छ। गल्ति औंल्याउनु अवश्य पनि उचित छ तर हचुवा आरोपहरु लगाउनु युक्तिसंगत हुँदैन। अप्रमाणित विवादास्पद कुराहरु उठाएर कान्तिपुरका सबल पक्षहरुलाई ओझेलमा पार्दा त्यहाँका पेशेवरहरुको मिहिनेतको उपहास हुन जान्छ।

(पुनश्च: माथीका कुराहरु कान्तिपुरका एकजना नियमित पाठकका नितान्त व्यक्तिगत बिचार हुन। यसमा सहमत असहमत हुनेले न्यूयुजरलाई आफ्ना जवाफमा नतान्नुहोला, धन्यवाद)
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Prajatantra, just by putting the name as prajatantra and reiterating the belief in democracy doesn't make u the democrat. You got to practice what u preach. It seems that you're still unconvinced that pictures were not photo edit work.

There's nothing wrong in printing pictures of 046 movement, and I dare you to give the single incidence where they've shown these pictures as current movement. The current movement, in the news, actually turned out to be in larger scale than 046. Any evidence if you're able to provide may just be an unintentional error.

In my opinion, the newspapers like kantipur are fighting for their existence. They won't be able to survive in non-democratic environment, as Kantipur came into light only after democracy and will go into dark with the extinction of democracy in Nepal.

I'm not writing for kantipur as I don't have anything to do with them, but at least they've become the easiest n' best source of news. Regarding biases, I've heard alot about it in many forms in kantipur. However, we've to admit noone is perfect. I'm responding to this thread just because it seemed another propaganda to me.
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I added around 300 people in this picture.
Find them where are they.


This is a photoshop shit.
But the picture from Kantipur was a original one.

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Whoever blamed it was photoshoped,

Why don't you come with way to prove it? "pixel density" "hologram"

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