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Posted on 11-08-11 10:40
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When i was a kid (or when i was in Nepal), i used to believe in God. I did however have reservations on religion but i still believed in God. Its been a year in US now and having met people from other cultures, the existence of a supreme being doesnt make sense anymore.
I think that believeing in GOd instills in a person faith, confidence and positivity to get through good times and be appreciative of the bad ones. I want my children to have these qualities so i dont want to tell them that GOd doesnt exist. Moreover, i cant imagine what my parents/relatives will make of me when i talk to them about this. It isnt going to be pretty.
It does give me great discomfort to think about all this. I must admit i feel less confident and more pessimistic these days. I want to believe in God but my logic doesnt give in anymore. In fact, i get irritated when i hear things like "God COMMANDED you to.." "GOd will PUNISH you if..", "We are SERVANTS in from of Him" "(on Christianity): "Jesus died on the cross for you"(THere are many who have made a similar magnitude of sacrifice).
I think that God and religion are ancient theories that havent been discarded yet. And it hasnt due to the fear in people of what might happen if they didnt. One of my teachers once said "if there is no god and you believe in god, there is no harm but if there is god and you dont believe in god, there is harm". i feel this and cultural and social stigmas lead people to be religious and not question their beliefs.
I wanna know what you guys make of this.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:04
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@chaurey,
god doesn't exisit, but so called god that I see are super intelligent beings.
they are just the fragments of the 'O N E'. It's just the matter of fact, that they are highly advanced than us, or may be in some quadrants of galaxies, could be other civilization just beginning to rise up and far behind than us. Whatever it is, there are other entities for sure who's been hovering over our planets for thousands of years of known human history. They call it god, I call it advanced ET
You need proof on this?? I can show you 1000's of proof.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:10
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Homey ji,
how old are you? lol.. we're just having a fair discussion.
The moment you wrote your 'defeated post' I felt you as a underage who was little influenced and confused and trying to win over the people's mind.
You don't need to prove if you are right or wrong, fire doesn't need to prove how hot it is, ice doesn't need to prove how cold it is, blood doesn't need to prove how red it is, in similar fashion, spiritually awakened people don't need to prove his spirituality.
I was thinking you as being spiritually awakened but the moment you wrote like 'you accepted defeat'.. I was shocked.
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Homeyji
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:18
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Bittertruth,
Mentally and emotionally, I am about 4 years old, maybe even 3. But I don't see why that is relevant to this discussion. Why? How old are you?
I do agree with you. A spiritually enlightened soul does not have to prove his spirituality to anyone. Those are probably one of the wisest words I have read on this thread in a long time.
I was a fool to try to believe that there were sincere people on this thread who searched for spirituality with the same sincerity as I did. That was my mistake. Thank you for letting me know that I was wrong. I respect your words.
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:24
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This must be you!
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Homeyji
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:27
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Chaurey,
You are right. God is alien to anyone who has not discovered 'an object that consistently satisfies him/her.'
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:30
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homey ji, the only reason I asked you with shock is because I want you to be on this thread. That's it. When I asked about your age, no pun was intended. I was implying you to stick with your understanding and sharing it here instead of engaging with reckless thoughts.
I read your words.
Thanks
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:32
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oh yeah heard that they do anal probing too...must be gods for gay ppl right?
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:32
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@ chaurey, there you go.. that's the group of people where I belong :D
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rethink
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:35
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"I was a fool to try to believe that there were sincere people on this thread who searched for spirituality with the same sincerity as I did. That was my mistake."
If that is how you think then you are so far away from spirituality that you would not know spirituality if it came knocking at your door. If you reach the level of ideal spirituality then such mundane things should not bother you. You have had the revelation of the true nature of things which sets you free from worldly bickerings. You don't expect things from people because you are complete in yourself.
Sorry homeyji I expected more from you.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:38
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our minds are definitely deep-anal-probed by friggin hollywood, thats why as soon as we read the word 'alien' , anal probe comes it.
How pathetic is that? aliens are portrayed as malevolent, you never know. if it were, we would not be sitting here typing here.
they're like our custodians , that's what history and recent activies in past 50 years so.. all nuclear deactivation/melting and shits like that..
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Homeyji
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:39
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But Rethink,
That is why I elected you as my gurudev. Your job is to criticize every fault you see in me. You are doing your job excellently, by the way. Naturally, being very spiritually enlightened yourself, gurudev, I am already assuming that you criticise your ownself far more than you criticise me. But that goes without saying, doesn't it, your holyness?
You are far more compassionate on others than you are to yourself.
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Posted on 11-30-11 1:49
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Just watch this video: I match Type III civilization to perfect definition of your worshipped GOD
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Posted on 11-30-11 5:10
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Posted on 12-01-11 11:15
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@Rethink, You seem to have a lot of faith in chance. So your God must be a dice. Like Boudhanath has many faces, which face of the dice do you worship? Or...is that also up to chance? LOL. So you worship randomness?
How randomly do you worship randomness? Or is that random too? LOL. It sounds like your philosophy is as stable as you are.
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rethink
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Posted on 12-01-11 11:54
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Budmash
You don't have to believe in probability, you toss a coin and when it lands you are face to face with probability. There's nothing to believe but to understand the reality of probability.
You don't worship randomness you simply acknowledge it.
Randomness may sound like a philosophy to you but it's just another fact of life.
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Posted on 12-01-11 11:59
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LOL @ Rethink. That is really funny because I know someone else just like you who makes random comments from all sides of his mouth. His comments, stance, philosophy and ideas change as randomly as yours do. Have you heard of him?
Tell me Rethink, did you teach him your philosophy? He seems to practice your philosophy very well. Nepal thanks you for your contribution. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6XGRt58oqA
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rethink
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Posted on 12-01-11 12:07
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Budmash you are surely talking out of your a$$ now.
Where have I changed my stance, philosophy as you have indicated? I stand firm on my beliefs.
Enlighten me how or when I changed my stance then we can talk. Otherwise i'm not gonna bother arguing with a moron.
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Posted on 12-01-11 12:11
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LOL@Rethink. Why so angry, oh enlightened one? Your random outburst of anger does not suit your philosophy.
Oh I get it. You only use your philosophy to defeat others arguments, without any intention of living it? Hmmm....that sounds like exactly what Prachanda did. Interesting.
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rethink
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Posted on 12-01-11 12:19
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"LOL@Rethink. Why so angry, oh enlightened one? Your random outburst of anger does not suit your philosophy. "
LOL Budmash you got it all wrong AGAIN!
I have never said I am enlightened. You create your own references and you accuse others of being what you think they are! Haha how convenient is that? Remember anything you do for your own convenience without considering the truth is called escapism :)
If I claim someone is talking out of their ass then that does not mean I am angry, I am only observing the reality of someone creating stuff up. (you can still defend your statement by showing where I have changed by stance or philosophy).
And when I say I am not gonna argue with a moron that is a factual statement, not anger.
You need to start learning the definition of anger and start defending your statements.
Let's start by defending your statement otherwise like I said I don't want to discuss with a moron
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Posted on 12-01-11 12:28
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