When i was a kid (or when i was in Nepal), i used to believe in God. I did however have reservations on religion but i still believed in God. Its been a year in US now and having met people from other cultures, the existence of a supreme being doesnt make sense anymore. 

I think that believeing in GOd instills in a person faith, confidence and positivity to get through good times and be appreciative of the bad ones. I want my children to have these qualities so i dont want to tell them that GOd doesnt exist. Moreover, i cant imagine what my parents/relatives will make of me when i talk to them about this. It isnt going to be pretty. 

It does give me great discomfort to think about all this. I must admit i feel less confident and more pessimistic these days. I want to believe in God but my logic doesnt give in anymore. In fact, i get irritated when i hear things like "God COMMANDED you to.." "GOd will PUNISH you if..", "We are SERVANTS in from of Him" "(on Christianity): "Jesus died on the cross for you"(THere are many who have made a similar magnitude of sacrifice). 

I think that God and religion are ancient theories that havent been discarded yet. And it hasnt due to the fear in people of what might happen if they didnt. One of my teachers once said "if there is no god and you believe in god, there is no harm but if there is god and you dont believe in god, there is harm". i feel this and cultural and social stigmas lead people to be religious and not question their beliefs. 

I wanna know what you guys make of this.

You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself if you think that everyone in the world needs to answer to you
From where did you develop such arrogance? Are you an authority of any sort?



Ha ha ha. You must think that you are God, if you believe that everyone in the world needs to answer  you before they can believe what they believe.

@rethink,
now you are coming to the point :D I equally like alternate thinking :D 

Chaurey,

You don't have to be God to have authority.
My authority is my experience. From my experiences in life, unlike you, I have discovered 'an object that consistently satisfies me.'
I am not an authority of everything. But I am an authority of my experience.

For example, the fact that I have been to Naxal, Boudha, Chabel, etc, it does give me a certain level of credibility that I know what those places are. I don't need to pass some scientific test before I can attest that I know those places and that I have friends and family in those places.

Why, do you not feel that you are an authority of your experiences? Do you not feel that you can vouch for who your parents and your family are? Can you confidently say where your home in Nepal is? Then you are an authority of those experiences also.

What is the difficulty in understanding this simple thing? Relax, my friend. Don't worry, be happy.

Hakuna Matata, bro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6vLAa-kylM

There is no GOD like your religion tells you to think
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Bittertruth i agree with you on the alien theory of gods. There is a very good possibility that it is true.

Homeyji if you read my answer and understand it, then you know that your question does not even need to be asked.

But since you are unable to understand it I will answer your questions.

"Please tell me your philosophy in life. What is your basis of truth? What is life?"


Philosophy in life: 
Since life is a result of chance, enjoy and appreciate it as long as you have it and know that it is the same for others so respect other's right to enjoy and appreciate their lives.

Basis of truth:
Something that can be verified and proven or logically and reasonably expressed

What is life:
A result of millions of probability working together to create the chance :)

Still waiting for the answer to my question, guys.

And seriously, if this is the quality of this discussion moving forward on this thread, then I am done talking here. To make all of my 'Bidwan gurus' happy I will be the first to admit:

I lost, you guys won. You guys are 100% correct. I am 100% wrong. Best of luck to you guys and your life, I am done discussing on this thread. Congratulations on your win. May the nature of your truth and knowledge bring you as much happiness, joy and satisfaction as mine has brought to me. Best of luck to all of you.

With only best wishes and much love to my brothers on Sajha,
Homeyji

They are not malevolent. They're just watching us grow. But when monkeys try to destroy each other with their new nuclear toys, they occassionaly intervene.
Here is the military retiree breaking his oath, who determined to be loyal to public than shady government.
:::GOD, YOU THINK IS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT SUPER BEINGS FROM DIFFERENT STARS:::

the last post i made are your words that i copied pasted from your comment on top brah ...scroll up....you actually posted that comment few days ago...

well anyway good for you that you found something that satifsfies in a world full of dis-satisfaction, and your personal opinion about whatever that satisfies you is GOD. hmm does not jive with me, i would not tie my experiences with, satisfied or not with GOD label but then it's your personal opinion. telling people where i am from is disclosing a fact, i know i can PROVE to people where i am from and they can TEST it this fact.  Your personal experiences, and to this day you have not said what it is that you feltl that makes you absolutely sure it is/was a GODLY experience, is still in question. 

whenever i ask you to provide the instance of your GODLY experience you come up with your lame excuse that anyone who asks you is unimportant or irrelevant, arrogant etc. a defense mechanism to not get to the point but beat around the bush. I don't believe in god and i don't think the way you have established yourself has helped me doubt an ounce that such an entity exists.

"Please tell me your philosophy in life. What is your basis of truth? What is life?"

Homey ji,
               Don't be bothered with worldly matters. All the teachings and philosophies of life tells you just how to engage in your worldly matter and activities with perfection. It's just the way telling you how to live . Philosophy is good for living a  good and moral life. But just look at the main point, it's telling you how to live your life good. The life which is just like a bubble of water drop. There are much greater things to do than being and involved into philosophies. But the bitter reality, to run this everyday life, we can't help it.


Basis of truth is truth. The truth is to recognize yourself, why you are breathing? why you think you are smartyass than rest of the organisms on the planet? Why you are different than the equally fit dead body? why do you have feelings,? why do you dream ? think about all of these stuffs, the truth shall slowly uncover itself.

May be those great yogis and buddhas, attained this great knowledge of enlightenement that way.  If we start to get even a bit of these real things, that's much better than to have falsely educated materials in our brains.

"I lost, you guys won. You guys are 100% correct. I am 100% wrong. Best of luck to you guys and your life, I am done discussing on this thread. Congratulations on your win. May the nature of your truth and knowledge bring you as much happiness, joy and satisfaction as mine has brought to me. Best of luck to all of you."


Homeyji there is no need for such defeated mentality and sarcasm.

You act as if this is a fight to prove who is right and who is wrong. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. We are only expressing our opinions.

The problem with you is you are 100% sure of your belief and that is the biggest burden that you bear and you want to continue to want others to believe in you without even having the courage, or the expertise to express your so called experiences.

If you don't have anything else to contribute to this discussion then bye bye to you.

@chaurey,
god doesn't exisit, but so called god that I see are super intelligent beings.

they are just the fragments of the 'O N E'. It's just the matter of fact, that they are highly  advanced than us, or may be in some quadrants of  galaxies, could be other civilization just beginning to rise up and far behind than us. Whatever it is, there are other entities for sure who's been hovering over our planets for thousands of years of known human history. They call it god, I call it advanced ET

You need proof on this?? I can show you 1000's of proof.

Homey ji,
how old are you? lol.. we're just having a fair discussion.
The moment you wrote your 'defeated post' I felt you as a underage who was little influenced and confused and trying to win over the people's mind.

You don't need to prove if you are right or wrong, fire doesn't need to prove how hot it is, ice doesn't need to prove how cold it is, blood doesn't need to prove how red it is, in similar fashion, spiritually awakened people don't need to prove his spirituality.

I was thinking you as being spiritually awakened but the moment you wrote like 'you accepted defeat'.. I was shocked.

Bittertruth,

Mentally and emotionally, I am about 4 years old, maybe even 3. But I don't see why that is relevant to this discussion. Why? How old are you?

I do agree with you. A spiritually enlightened soul does not have to prove his spirituality to anyone. Those are probably one of the wisest words I have read on this thread in a long time.

I was a fool to try to believe that there were sincere people on this thread who searched for spirituality with the same sincerity as I did. That was my mistake. Thank you for letting me know that I was wrong. I respect your words.

This must be you!

Chaurey,

You are right. God is alien to anyone who has not discovered 'an object that consistently satisfies him/her.'

homey ji, the only reason I asked you with shock is because I want you to be on this thread. That's it. When I asked about your age, no pun was intended. I was implying you to stick with your understanding and sharing it here instead of engaging with reckless thoughts.
I read your words.

Thanks

oh yeah heard that they do anal probing too...must be gods for gay ppl right?

@ chaurey, there you go.. that's the group of people where I belong :D 

"I was a fool to try to believe that there were sincere people on this thread who searched for spirituality with the same sincerity as I did. That was my mistake."

If that is how you think then you are so far away from spirituality that you would not know spirituality if it came knocking at your door. If you reach the level of ideal spirituality then such mundane things should not bother you. You have had the revelation of the true nature of things which sets you free from worldly bickerings. You don't expect things from people because you are complete in yourself.

Sorry homeyji I expected more from you.

our minds are definitely deep-anal-probed by friggin hollywood, thats why as soon as we read the word 'alien' , anal probe comes it.
How pathetic is that? aliens are portrayed as malevolent, you never know. if it were, we would not be sitting here typing here.
they're like our custodians , that's what history and recent activies in past 50 years so.. all nuclear deactivation/melting and shits like that..