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Posted on 08-12-05 12:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe ji ma eak rajnitik ma maan rakney tara rajnitik prati dherai gyaan nabhaye ko manche pare.Tapai mannus ya namannus ma tapai ko tarka bitarka bata nikai prabhahet hudai tapai ko gata dui barsha dekhi tapai ko herek post haru religiously fallow gardai aaye ko chu. Tapai ko post pardha kahely mero ragat oumliyera aaouthiyo ta kaheley nirasiyera basthiye. Kaheley ma kina yeha basiraheko baru nepal gayera kehe garnu paryo bhanne abhas aouthiyo.

Nepe ji tara hijo aaja mero maan ma kehe prasna haru kheelna thaleyka chan tesai ley mailey yeha tapai ko samuney kehe prashna haru rakna khoje ko chu. Huna sakcha yo mera prasna haru kaam nalagne pani huna sakcha karan rajnitik mero cup of tea nabhaye ko ley pani huna sakcha je hos yedi answer yogya thandinu bhaye please do answer me.

1. Nepe ji tapai ko harek post haru padiyo ani tapai ko tarka pani suniyo Nepe ji ko pacchi pacchi pani lagiyo aba kura rahayo ke bhane Nape ji ke ye sabai tapai ka post tarka bitarka haru CYBER WORLD arthat Sajha ma matrai kayem hune ho ki arko sabda ma bhanda yo tabai ko time kill garney bato ho?

2. Yedi hoina bhane tapai ley nepal ko recent situation lai solve garna afnu thaou bata kasto yogdan dirahanu bhaye ko cha?

3. Tapai NJ ko sabai subidha haru consume gardai khali Cyber World ma matrai Nepal ma yo pugena tyo bhayena bhanera critic garnu khojnu ta bhaye ko hina ?

4. Nape ji tapai Nepal ma gayera kina yo andolan lai safal parnu hunna?Ki tapai lai US $ ra subhida tyagna kathin pareko ho? Ki tapai lai Nepal Government ley band gare ko cha nepal jana bata? Bhanchan ni "Action speaks louder than words" jasto hune ho ki?

5. Hoina bhane ta Nepe ji tapai hamro AGUWA ani tapai leyi kunai BOLD kadam nachali khali Cyber ma matrai aayera rame shyame govinde kalu sanga tarka bitarka matra dinu bhayo bhane ta "Jo aguwa woi bato haguwa" jasto ta dekhinu hune hoina?

Once again Nepe ji ma tapai ko follower bhayeko nata ley malai mathi ka kura haru ka answer magne adhikar bhayeko ley matra sodeko hun. Huna ta mero rajnitik ma testo gyan nabhaye ko karan ley tapai lai ye prasna haru waihaat lagna pani sakcha tara mero maan ko santi ko lagi bhaye pani tapai ley mero prasna ko jawaf dinu hunecha bhane asha gareko chu.

ps: Nape ji huna ta ma pani Dr ta Dr nai hun tara ma chain pare manis ko Dr. yedi tapai lai mero answer ko lagi mero real ID ko abasekta parema bhanuhos ma mero real Id dine chu.
 
Posted on 08-15-05 12:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe,

By saying "email me if you want to know when I'm going to Nepal"... you show your inconsistencies. Why did not you email Ashu asking for what you wanted to know regarding his Stand-up comedy thru email, rather you made such a big deal about it here publicly. If you want other's to be public then you have to more so than others because of your political anti-monarchy writings. You and Poonte are the two people in sajha who express their political beliefs so why woudn't you answer this particular question? Maybe thousands of Nepalese need you in Nepal soon. Ki kura matrai ho??




 
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SweeP,

हत्तेरिका, त्यो 'अप्रिलफूल काण्ड' को अन्तिम दाह-संस्कार भईसक्यो भन्ठान्या, तपाई त उधिनेर पो ल्याउनुहुन्छ ।

I am sure you did not mean to hurt Ashu's case, however I am afraid you just might have done that.

Although the cases are very different, one might wonder why Ashu failed to do what Nepe just did. That is, being explicit about things and intentions and leave no room for uncertainlty. Well, Ashu had a plan for Nepe; Nepe doesn't have one with Cryptonite and Shyamu. That's why. Ashu chose silence (neither answer, nor rejection to the question, nor an offer of a private conversation); Nepe chose the opposite of what Ashu did.

Now, you are not saying Ashu had done a right thing to Nepe and Nepe is doing a wrong thing with Shyamu and Cryptonite, do you, SweetP ?

Now, as for thousands of Nepalese needing Nepe and Anil in Nepal, well, if that is your suggestion then thank you for the suggestion. On the other hand, if you were taking this decision for Nepe and Anil, then I will say, kindly leave this part to ourselves. Fair enough ?

Nepal ko kura garne ho bhane, frankly speaking, republican front is already too crowded. It is monarchist species that is scarce in Nepal. Poor king, there is nobody for him. Look, he had to get his deputy from India and deputy's deputies from the criminals and bhagaudas. I think the royalists from Sajha should seriously consider taking next day's flight to Kathmandu.

Republicans ta, as I said, are already too crowed and, on top of that, they are growing din dui guna raat chauguna. They don't need Nepe and Anil, at least not as badly as the King is needing just about anybody with two legs. Any royalist Sajhaites ?

 
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Nepe,

You can go ON and ON on sajha with your lies regarding my very PUBLIC and

covered-by-the-Kathmandu-media
ancient and
pretty-much-forgotten-by-everyone-else-but-you
stand-up comedy (of half hour ko and in English-Nepali) of 1st April 2004.

It was a PUBLIC show, with more than 100 people in attendance.

With so many people in the audience, there was NOTHING for me to hide about
the show.

That is why, it's NOT my fault that you:

a) have been hurling FALSE accusations at me for a long time on Sajha (an eye-raising act, to be sure -- considering that you were NOT even in Nepal when the show took place),

b) despite my requests, failed to do your research

c) REPEATEDLY misled many (especially new) Sajha folks about my political beliefs, even needlessly dragging my name in discussions about everything from Rajpal Singh's TND to the formation of the new council of ministers in Nepal.

d) and when ati was ati and I finally posted the Kantipur evidence on Sajha, you instead turned around, and with no shame, chose to further accuse me of hiding the evidence!!

I mean, how the hell is anyone reasonable and given to a sense of fair play to deal with an Akhil-trained silver-tongued chamelon like you?

Still, I am confident that that many reasonable and sensible Sajha folks (who have no probem with your holding whatever ideology) will see you for what you really are: someone for whom ideology trumps a sense of fair play.

Have a good day, Nepe.

oohi
ashu

 
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Ashu,
Lets spare Nepe. He is not a sensible and responsible person. You must stop thinking that he is a politically inclined person and a person with Khopdi. He is a chamelon. If he goes in this speed, he will surpass Padma Ranta types of person very soon. As far as his postings in sajha is concerned, it is dirt/ garbage that Nepe pukes sometime. Some time people need to spray the deordorant in sajha. It even smells across the threads. His posting is misleading to people for a while but not for long. He treats like a boss until some one finds out that he is bombasting. He once forwarded me his dead and junk link to read. Nepe asked me to read something, ha ha ha.... And I remeber he asked one fellow sajhite to read his Decon.... and catch up with him on later data. What a rediculous person. Nepe, it is time to learn and grow up dude.
 
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Type: "He treats like a boss" --> he thinks he is a boss
 
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Nepe you accuse me of showing disrespect in your personal life. That is a LIE simply because I have only disagreed with you. Do you really believe that any dissent shown by anybody is disrespecting you personally?

Until earlier you were saying it's nobody's business when you're going to go, but now when you say Nepal doesn't need Nepe or Anil because the republicans are plentiful, it is beginning to seem like you're making excuses for not going back to fight the 'war'.

If you are afraid of going back to Nepal, or are hesitant of leaving your comfortable job in the US, just say so. No need to make excuses.
 
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Today I found out that Nepe is a shameless creature. When he loses an argument, he goes to different threads and talk about the argument he lost. The other party, in this case Ashu then has to go to every thread where Nepe has whined and whined about his loss that he does not acknowledge. That he was in the wrong. And now we know he wants to be a mayor! Amrika ko bhat khanu khayo, hagyo yehi and nepal ma gayara mayor banney sapana! How hypocrite! All the people who are sweating and shedding blood and staying put (in Nepal) deserve to be the mayor of their land. Not Nepe, not Anil, not you - all the opportunists. Nepe leads the pack in oppurtunism and other bhusuna follows. Republicans ha! DREAM ON!

Nepe isis a maoist and nothing more. Look at his absolutism - in both political ideology and personal beliefs. He is so proud of his black and white world he reminds me of George Bush. Whoever is not with us is agaist us" that kind of stubbrness and silliness. If a person says let's talk and protest about maoist atrocity he brands that person as a monarchist. If Ashu does not give an answer about his political ambivalence he accuses him as a royalist.
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STEP BACK EVERYBODY - HERE COMES THE REVEREND Rousseau , Voltaire!
Not! !!!!

He is a bloody Maoist. Once an Akhil (maoist) always a maoist.

PS Ashu, be a better person and do not folllow where Nepe goes and talk about that ancient history. All the silent majority agrees with you. I have talked to few of them. I am saying this based on that sample.
 
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नेपेजीले नेपाल फर्केर मेयर बन्ने अभिलासा भएको जुन शालिन अभिब्यक्ति दिनू भो, म यसलाई १६रै आना सहि ठान्छु।

अमेरिका बस, युरोप बस जहाँसुकै बस आफ्नो गाउँठाउँमा फर्केर सेवा गर्ने अभिलासा लिने कुरामा कसैलाई अपाच्य हुनुपर्ने र
पेट मिच्नु पर्ने जरो मैले देख्दिन।
अब यो MP को सल्लाहकार हुने भन्ने अर्को मनसाय छ नि , यसमा नेपेजी कतै चुनाबसित डराएको त हैन, जस्तो आभाष हुन्छ।

घोडा चढ्ने लड्छ।

चुनाबसित डराएको MP को सल्लाहकार नेपे भन्दा चुनाबी मैदानमा उत्रेर ३ भोट ल्याएर हारेको नेपेमा मेरो सम्मान सहनेछ।
अब मन्त्रीको सल्लाहकार हुने भे आलोचनात्मक समर्थन गरौँला। तर नेपेले हेर्न सक्ने क्षेत्रको मन्त्रालय पनि त हुनु प-यो नि।
पञ्चायत निति तथा जाँचबुझ समिति जस्तै *गणतन्त्र निति तथा जाँचबुझ समिति* हुने भे नेपे त्यहीँ ठीक। अब खेलकुद मन्त्रीको सल्लाहाकारमा नेपेलाई राखेर काम छैन। बरु जगत गौचनै बेस।मिल्ने मन्त्रालय खोजुम्।

प्र म को सल्लाहकार हुनलाई नेपेको पररास्ट्र निति र त्यस सम्बन्धी बिचार सुन्न पाइएकै छैन।त्यसैळे नेपेजीले पनि अध्ययन गर्नुपर्ने थुप्रै छ, हुन त जसको पनि हुन्छ।
अनि अलिकति यथार्थसित नजिकिएर सोच्नुपर्छ तर्क दिँदाखेरि।

जे होस् good luck!

मेरो २ कौडीको बिचार!
 
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agree with Dada Giri.

Nut
 
Posted on 08-16-05 11:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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दादा,

'मेयर', 'सल्लाहकार' को कुरा मेरो गम्भिर योजना भन्दा बेसी सामान्य रहरको रुपमा व्यक्त गरेको हुँ । मैले जे गरे पनि आफुलाई त्यसको निम्ति योग्य र प्रशिक्षित (broadly defined) नबनाईकन चाहि आँट्दिन भनेर मेरा सबै शुभचिन्तकहरुलाई विश्वास दिलाउन चाहन्छु ।

गणतन्त्रको लागि अनवरत लड्ने स्वतन्त्र कार्यकर्ता हुनु भन्दा बेसी मेरा कुनै गम्भिर योजना, कार्यक्रम र तयारी छैन अहिलेलाई । शायद मेरो राजनैतिक योगदान यसै कुरामा टुङ्गिनेछ ।

'है और भी गम दुनियाँ मे मुहब्बत के सिबा' भने झै, राजनीति वाहेक अरु पनि महत्वपूर्ण, अर्थपूर्ण र सन्तुष्टीदायक कुरा छन् जीवनमा, र म तिनबाट वञ्चित हुन चाहन्नँ । फेरि राजनीति (गणतन्त्रको लडाई) मा मेरो लगाव राजनैतिक भन्दा गैरराजनैतिक कारणले छ ।

मेरो केहि व्यक्तिगत दर्शनहरुको कारण मलाई यस्तो काम गर्नुबाट बाट अधिक सन्तुष्टी आउँछ जुन काम अरुले आँट्न नसकिरहेको होस् । Adventurist भनम् न । सयौं प्रतिस्पर्धीहरु भएको ठाउँमा लुसुक्क आएर उभिने काम (चुनाव) ले मलाई सन्तुष्टी देला जस्तो लाग्दैन ।

फेरि मेरो दिवानापन शक्तिसंग भन्दा पनि शक्तिसंग लड्ने शक्तिसंग हो । त्यसैले हो राजनेता हुनुसंग मेरो अनाकर्षण । म सदैव विद्रोह गर्नु पर्ने ठाउँ खोजेर विद्रोही नै रहि रहनेछु होला ।

गणतन्त्र आएपछि 'सल्लाहकार' हुने मेरो रहर, जुन संभवत: मेरो केटाकेटौले रहर हो, चाँहि सुधारका व्यापक छलफलमा सहभागी (प्रशिक्षक भन्दा पनि बेसी प्रशिक्षार्थीको रुपमा) हुने मेरो रहरसंग सम्बन्धित छ ।

म हाम्रो अर्धप्रजातन्त्रिक कालमै सुधारसम्बन्धी भएको एउटा व्यापक प्रजातान्त्रिक छलफलबाट निकै प्रभावित छु । त्यो हो नारी अधिकार सम्बन्धी कानूनको सुधारको निम्ति भएको लामो (बर्सौं लागेको) र अत्यन्त उत्साहजनक नागरिक र संसदिय छलफल र त्यसको विपरित दुर्भाग्यवश संसदमा भएको त्यस विधेयकको कारुणिक अन्त्य ।

जे भए पनि यी कुराहरु मेरा गम्भिर योजनाहरु नभएर केहि केटाकेटौले रहर मात्र हुन र संभवत: मेरो सक्रिय जीवनको एउटा सानो अंश मात्र ।

नेपे
 
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I wonder how many Sajhaites in Kathmandu joined this pro-democracy rally.

Citizens? Speak Out: In colors, Sounds, and Faces
- http://insn.org/?p=1751

Thousands participated in citizens? dharna for democracy and peace at Basantapur Dabli today.

Today?s Basantapur event was simply stunning. The colours were amazing, the diversity was breathtaking, and the order of sound was simply astounding. Asmina and her team?s white mouth-bands, Sarita Mishra?s solo tabla, Ramesh/Rayan/Ram Krishna?s songs, Dhirendra Premharshi, Biplob Pratik, Durgalal Shrestha, Purna Baidhya, Rajani Mila, Suresh Kiran?s poems, Manoj Gajurel?s satire?these were simply unprecedented mixture topped up with sharp and succinct speeches by Dhan Kumari Sunar, Bairagi Kainla, Keshav Man Shaky and Shambhu Thapa. All of them touched the heart of thousands who were present there.

Khagendra Sangroula was simply the best in his sharp humour, witty remarks and presentation.

The five cartoons hung around the Basantapur Dabli. One cartoon by Ramesh Bisht showed ?loktantra? kicking ?rajtantra? by the abyss. Batsayana?s cartoon showed poor man carrying Rolce Royace into the Royal Palace with a gun-toting armymen following him.

?Ek Yuga Ma Ek Din Ek Choti Aauncha? (One Day in an Age comes only once) by Ram Krishna Duwal made everybody clap in thunder. Bairagi Kainla likened present rule with a ?drama in which the king has played ?autocrat'?. ?Gaun Gaun Bata Utha? (Rise Up from Villages) by Ram Krishna Duwal, Ramesh and Rayan made everybody stand up and dance.

Dhana Kumari Sunar said, ?this nation belongs to us, but not the state?. It is for us all to fight for change so that every dalit, janajati, woman and people from remote areas also can say with pride that this land belongs to all, she added. Keshav Man Shakya, a janajati activist, demanded that a new constitution be drafted through constituent assembly and that this ensure representation of Nepal?s diverse peoples in every institution it creates.

Shambhu Thapa, president of Nepal Bar Association, asked the security forces and other government officials not to obey the ?orders of this unconstitutional rule?. There is no point in talking to the king, he said, adding that the political parties have to demand unconditional end of king?s rule. ?A new constitution that we will make will ensure supremacy of the people?, he argued.

Picture Source:
- http://www.blog.com.np/?p=802

 
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For your reading comfort, one more time with corrected punctuations . .

Citizens' Speak Out: In colors, Sounds, and Faces
- http://insn.org/?p=1751

Thousands participated in citizens' dharna for democracy and peace at Basantapur Dabli today.

Today's Basantapur event was simply stunning. The colours were amazing, the diversity was breathtaking, and the order of sound was simply astounding. Asmina and her team's white mouth-bands, Sarita Mishra's solo tabla, Ramesh/Rayan/Ram Krishna's songs, Dhirendra Premharshi, Biplob Pratik, Durgalal Shrestha, Purna Baidhya, Rajani Mila, Suresh Kiran's poems, Manoj Gajurel's satire?these were simply unprecedented mixture topped up with sharp and succinct speeches by Dhan Kumari Sunar, Bairagi Kainla, Keshav Man Shaky and Shambhu Thapa. All of them touched the heart of thousands who were present there.

Khagendra Sangroula was simply the best in his sharp humour, witty remarks and presentation.

The five cartoons hung around the Basantapur Dabli. One cartoon by Ramesh Bisht showed 'loktantra' kicking 'rajtantra' by the abyss. Batsayana's cartoon showed poor man carrying Rolce Royace into the Royal Palace with a gun-toting armymen following him.

"Ek Yuga Ma Ek Din Ek Choti Aauncha" (One Day in an Age comes only once) by Ram Krishna Duwal made everybody clap in thunder. Bairagi Kainla likened present rule with a 'drama in which the king has played "autocrat'. "Gaun Gaun Bata Utha" (Rise Up from Villages) by Ram Krishna Duwal, Ramesh and Rayan made everybody stand up and dance.

Dhana Kumari Sunar said, "this nation belongs to us, but not the state". It is for us all to fight for change so that every dalit, janajati, woman and people from remote areas also can say with pride that this land belongs to all, she added. Keshav Man Shakya, a janajati activist, demanded that a new constitution be drafted through constituent assembly and that this ensure representation of Nepal's diverse peoples in every institution it creates.

Shambhu Thapa, president of Nepal Bar Association, asked the security forces and other government officials not to obey the "orders of this unconstitutional rule". There is no point in talking to the king, he said, adding that the political parties have to demand unconditional end of king's rule. "A new constitution that we will make will ensure supremacy of the people", he argued.
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- http://www.blog.com.np/?p=802
 
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दादा लेखनुहुन्छ:
>प्र म को सल्लाहकार हुनलाई नेपेको पररास्ट्र निति र
>त्यस सम्बन्धी बिचार सुन्न पाइएकै छैन। त्यसैळे
>नेपेजीले पनि अध्ययन गर्नुपर्ने थुप्रै छ,

नि:सन्देह । यद्यपि मेरो रहर "परराष्ट्र मामला" मा सल्लाह दिने "सल्लाहकार" हुने चाँहि होईन (अनिल शाहीजीको विशेषज्ञता छँदै छ नि त्यसको निम्ति :-) ), कथंकदाचित कम्तिमा नेपाल-भारत सम्बन्धको मामलामा नेपेले सल्लाह दिने ठाउँ आयो भने कस्तो सल्लाह देला भन्ने जिज्ञासा हुने पाठकहरुको लागि प्रस्तुत छ, तीन वर्ष पुरानो मेरो साझा कुराकानीका केहि अंशहरु, Myth of Geopolitical reality, Indophobia and Competent Diplomacy को बारेमा:

(Additional Note: नेपे माथि विद्यावारिधि गर्न कम्मर कसेर आएका नयाँ एकल पंक्तिकार शोधार्थीहरुलाई पनि यो पुरानो thread पुरै पढ्न आमन्त्रण गर्दछु । यहाँहरुको लागि एक आकर्षण: एकजना साथीले नेपेलाई माओवादी प्यारो छ कि क्या हो भनेर छेड हान्नु भएको छ, एक पर्संगमा )

10-Jan-2002
- http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=2914&dsn=sajhaarchive


[the idea that we are at the mercy of India and that we should not take on a powerful country ] is not a double standard. It is a lack of standards. It is [a] self-defeat, [a] demoralization and suicide. It is a clinical depression of a nation. It is an illness large section of our society, notably some intellectuals and all political leaders, (exclude Maoists) are ailing with. Note that Khum Bahadur Khadka (?) recently said the same words in public, "every government of Nepal has to be at the mercy of the cooperation of India" (accurate wording ?). Was he telling the reality ? Yes. Was he telling the eternal truth ? No. He was [actually]telling about the state of his mind and the mind of the state he runs.

Indophobia is an illness of mind. It has two forms 1. hating India in everything, 2. fearing India in everything. In any form, it is harmful. It inhibits Nepal's progress.

Intellectual Indophobia [cf. Emotional Indophobia] is armed with a deceptively undefined fear factor called "geopolitic reality". The later ignores dynamism of relationship, undermines the power of diplomacy and grows on the semi-myth of "soil". Therefore it is essentially an illness of mind. We need [a] therapy.

Let me show you how it is a psychological illness. When people state that Nepal is at the mercy of India, they just state the statement as a generalized fear. They do not/ can not think of a specific case (existing or imagined) where Nepal would/ could have acted differently, were she not at the mercy [of India]. They do not go case by case. They just think, what's the point, in any case we are surrounded by large India, it MUST MEAN it has superiority or advantage in some thing, somewhere, some time. See ? a generalized fear.

Is/should there be a therapy for this illness ? Yes.

I hope more people will come to this thread and contribute their ideas for/against such matter of vital importance to our country's future. I leave [at] saying that India does not give us [a] free lunch. We pay this [way] or that way. India would not give us more just because our posture is of a demoralized nation. On the contrary, we shall get more if we stand as a nation with awareness, resolve and no intention to hurt anyone.

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. . .I totally agree that we have to deal with India diplomatically rather than with hysteria and emotion. Actually, that's my whole point ... No hysteria. Not only when hating India but also when fearing India, or loving India for that matter. Critical thinking, good diplomacy, wise play of cards (both available and that can be gotten), but no hysteria.

We should keep in mind the geography or whatever dimension of our relationship just to get the best deal. But whatever we do we should do without panicking, without making ourselves obsessed with geopolitics.

Geopolitics should be knowledge, not an obsession. We can not afford putting a billboard of geopolitics on the highway of our progress.

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[During the 1988 Blockade] I think we should have gained something by playing those cards [ US and China's vocal support to Nepal] with India. After all the blockade was lifted afterwards. Whatever is, my assertion is that the question should be how wisely we played the cards to maximize the deal we get. Obsession of geopolitics could have made us a poor player.

[Unless it is absolutely necessary, our having truculent political posture with India is counter productive ]. Exactly, no truculent political posture unless it is absolutely necessary. But also no fallen flat posture unless it is absolutely necessary, for example, to play tricks (lets use our imagination here). Just a pleasant and amicable posture all the time.

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If some day the whole world becomes a single boarderless nation and I live till then to see it [happening], I will be the [happiest] person in the world even if I have to give up my Nepalitwa. But that is a far away dream. While there is a trend of disintegration of forcefully and artificially integrated nations in the world, there is also an encouraging unification of common interests, economy and currency (Euro in the case). I was harboring this dream of South Asia Economic Union. Thanks to the SAARC summit in Kathmandu, something is happening. If I am not robbed of freedom and democracy, I don't mind South Asian Federation either.
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What should be Nepal's role in India-Pakistan or India-China conflict ?

Honest broker of peace. Because honesty is the best policy. I think honesty and neutrality should give us more edge in future. If we know anything about Indian and Pak mind by now, it won't be a bad idea to collect something useful for future too, but without harming our credibility. It seems a tough challenge. I am not sure how good we have sharpened our diplomatic skill. I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. And it is no secret that 'source-force' but not qualification is the qualification of Nepal's diplomats. So I am not so sure about our performance, if that ever required.

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दादा, छाँटले मेरो सल्लाह 'कच्चा वैद्यको मात्रा, यमपुरीको जात्रा' त हुने होईन ?

नेपे
 
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Nepe,

I enjoyed reading your above posting.

Here, your thoughts are similar to mine -- and having travelled and worked quite a bit across South Asia in the last one year, I say that we have to find ways to ride the Indian (and the Chinese) boom.

You write:

"I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. "

Bhutan's diplomats are sharp, speak excellent English, and appear to have been educated at St. Whatever schools of Darjeeling . . . followed by college/university in the US/UK, and returned home to join diplomatic service. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan have schools to train future diplomats.

Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there, with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.

oohi
ashu
 
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Well said ASHU......

((((( Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there, with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.)))))

No.1 example is NEPE.....

Gorkhali-X
 
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>छाँटले मेरो सल्लाह 'कच्चा वैद्यको मात्रा, यमपुरीको जात्रा' त हुने होईन ?
मोटा मोटी नक्शा तयार भो, गहिराइसम्म बुझ्न त धेरै सुन्नु पर्ने छ।
>I heard somewhere that Bhutan's diplomacy was much superior than Nepal's as shown in the case of refugees. And it is no secret that 'source-force' but not qualification is the qualification of Nepal's diplomats.
अब भुटानी शरणार्थी समस्या देखि लिएर इराक काण्ड, अनि माओबादी समस्यामा पनि नेपाली कुटनितिज्ञहरु कमजोर भन्ने कुरा त प्रस्ट हुन्छ, बिडम्बना।

यहाँनिर आशुजीले भन्या कुरा पनि मनासिब लाग्यो।
>. . . followed by college/university in the US/UK, and returned home to join diplomatic serviceIndia, Bangladesh and Pakistan have schools to train future diplomats. .

Coincidently, Ashu & Nepe bear the similar views in this regard, does it mean this thread doesn't continues longer?
 
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Ashu,

It's a matter of pleasure to find you and myself sharing a similar view. As a matter of fact, I think, barring from the matter of domestic politics, we probably share similar, if not identical, views on great many things.

Even in case of domestic politics, there is an interesting, if not bizarre, similarity between the approach you often have emphasized for dealing with the King and the one I am taking here for dealing with India.

I would probably be saying the same thing you are saying about how to deal with the King, had it not been for a small difference I see between India and the King.

With India, we have issues that can not be fought most efficiently with what can be called 'moral strength' of the issues alone. On the contrary, our issues with the King is of the nature that can be (and I would say, must be) fought with it's 'moral strength' alone. I think this is what our difference basically is and all that you and I are fighting are mere details of that.

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You wrote:
>I say that we have to find ways to ride the Indian (and the Chinese) boom.

Absolutely. Although I have not read in words, I feel many of us might be banking on the automatic SPILL OVER effect of the Indian/Chinese economic boom.

However, (you are in a better position to caution these people on this) with their relative stability as compared to us, Myanmar, Bangladesh and other SAARC countries might take our share (of opportunity) if we fail to become a stable country soon.

Still, stability alone won't be enough. Our people will have to acquire more sense of entrepreneurship and sharpen their cross-border trading skills. When I was "on the same page" with you during our debate on the curriculum of Nepali language a while ago, I was actually thinking about this very issue. We better spend our valuable time to train our students to make them internationally more competent rather than encouraging them to write better Nepali poems.

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On Nepal's diplomacy, I feel like crying when I see our ambassadors.

Sometime ago, our ambassador in DC, Mr. Kedar Bhakta Shrestha, wrote a rebuttal to an article published in a local Newspaper. The letter was so poor that the editor had to reject it for publication ! The poor embassy was forced to circulate the letter by emails and Nepali websites.
Even the darling boy of both Panchayat and Prajatantra, Dr. Bhekh Bahadur Thapa, disappoints. Wasn't he saying once that he has not studied the constitution of Bhutan and that is because he thinks that particular knowledge is not important in dealing with the case of Bhutani refugees in Nepal ? This is how our best diplomats are.

>Meantime, Nepal's best and the brightest go to the West, and stay there,
>with their face forever pressed against the outside glass looking on in Nepal.

I believe our population pool is big enough to allow us to afford losing a fraction of it's brain to "drain". And I would rather celebrate than pitying whatever small small things, including sentimental attachments, these drained brains could do for Nepal.

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दादा,

आशु र मेरो कुरा मिलेपछि त झन तन्केला जस्तो पो छ त थ्रेड, के को निथ्रन्थ्यो ?

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आशु र मेरो सिङौरी खेलाखेल पर्दा लागेको घाउमा बसेर अलिकति रगत खाने झिङ्गेदाउ बोकेर पछि पछि लागेका झिङ्गे पोस्टरहरु (sd_man, Nemesis प्रभृति) यो पाली भने निराश भए होलान् ।
 
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कुरो मिलेछ, हर्ष लाग्यो

अब झन यस्तै यस्तै धेरै राम्रा राम्रा कुरा गर्न पर्यो। बरु चाहिने भए अर्को "ASHU JI" भन्ने मेलो पनि खोलि दिउँला ;)

Keep rolling...
 
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Tsk nepe. I am the nemesis. The goddess of retribution. Please read some Greek mythology. That will enlighten you. I mean read, not just google. If you knew what my namesake standks for then you would not have accused me as a jhinge poster who drinks blood. I bestow vengence, rath, to those who are puffed up with hot air and go unchecked.
 



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