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At the dawn of the civilization religion might have been a necesssaty. here I am not talking about the religion related to god.
I do not beleive religion has anyhting to do with god or god created religion.
There were many unorganised religion developed as a "law" to govern the society. And at that time ther was no omnipotent government/transportation and communication so religion was developed. Later on as civilization needed more lawas, communities became more organised then organised religion started to appear they are, jewism/hinduism/Greek religion/Persian religion.
Those religion started to get old ( what happens when a human gets old?) lots of bad practice started to take precednce. Instead of doing good to humanity they started to become a burden to the society.
As the society moved forward it neeeded somehting different. And governments also started to become more and more promonent hence the Budhhisn emerged as new religion avoiding many bad practices of Hinduism. In middle east there was already a need of new revolution to fight against Rome and old religion. So, in middle east Jesus Christ started a revolution which later on became Christianity.
Its like Karl Marks wrote a book "das capital" he was paid by a publisher to wrtie a book about emerging problems in new industrialised Europe. I think Marks got 25 dollars or somehting like that for writing that book.
Lenin later thinking that book is the solution to the emerging problem of then Russia started a Revolution, in the begenning it succedded but eventually it failed because it had no consideration for human nature.
Christ started a revolution in Jerusalem, Rome was very powerfull so he was curcified (a common way of killing rebellains by Rome). but later his followers were able to dismantle rome and its religion
Offcourse at the time Rome became Christian, Roman empire was already a weak empire ( actually not even a empire). In human history no empire has lasted that long as roman empire.
Fall of Rome at the hand of Christian was a black day for science and technology. Christian started to become dominant religion of Europe. But at that time the Christian religious movement was already captured by "non competant/greedy people" so once Christian religion become dominant its cunning leaders used it for their personal benefit. Modern thoughts were punished. Science and technoly was forbiddon. Bible became sole source of everything and its interpreters father/priests/brother /sisters created a evil empire which lasted more that 1500 years. Authoritrin rule of Christianty destroyed the government ( because it stood against the ever hungry greed of priests). If you read the history of Europe after Europe fell into Christianity there was power struggle between church and government, finally church prevailed. and it lasted almost 1500 years.
Common people in Italy realised Christianity has enslaved tham , so renaissance (rebirth) started in Italy and by 1700 it engulfed entire europe. There was once again struggle of power between church and govt. church and kings. This time govt prevailed. (Because of these there are many big church/cathedrals in europe but they always remains empty. Mostly tourists visit those place.
Renaissance was real revolution for human kind, people started to think differently after renaissance many scientific discovery have been made.
Prists lost the judiciary power/ governing power but they knew how to survive they change the trick so they used human lust for heaven after death to collect the donation and keep themsleves.
If there was no christianity, what the world would look like today ?
Nobody knows how it would be today but based on the fact that 1) christinas punished scientific ideas and 2) after renaissance where christianty lost the power, many idea flourished and humen achieved a lot, so one possibility is that we could have colonised Mars by now if there is no Christianity, you never know.
Hinduism
Started as a natural religion worhiping sun/earth/water and fire . Because these things are very essentials for the survival of life as we know.
This religion keep on adding/ adopting many different practices. Because of this it never got chance to as powerfull as Christian religion but people are people they devised a cast system so that professionalism always emained within the family.
As we all know it is easy to pollute water in pond then the water in river. Because in river there is alwasy flow of fresh water. Becauses of cast system professnalism remained only withinn certain group so the flow of new idea was preventd. To save family dominance lots of bad practices were introduced. religion beacme polluted and finally it cripplled the society and its developement.
Only now you can feel new ideas /discoveries done by the people following hinduism as it was before.
Islamism
What can you expect from a teenager? feeling itself as invincible ?? comapred to other prominent religion Islam is a teenager. They always complain about everything which is not islamic. I think Christianity and Hinduism was like this after 1000 years of their fromation. Hinusim/budhhism/Christiany judaism even though behaved like this during their first 1000 years society was completely different then. Now many people dont feel the necessaty of any religon to guide their life. So in many instances islam is like odd man out. born in wrong time. And you know what muslims are most of the time, in receving end of the punishment. Isalm is not saving them. This is the main problem with Islam.
Judaism
Born as a natural religion , later accepting many cultural things during their revilution against Egyptin and Rome . Never had a chance to influence the government of many countries of that time. People suffered a lot in Judaism so Jews know how to manage money and how to fight for survival. Their money saving skill developed during scarcity worked a lot in later years. They spread,used that skill of trade and make profit They have suffered a lot in human history. Their religion didnt save them from all those suffering. And they are still struggling for survival.
By the way, most Jews think no other religion has contributed to human society like judaism. for evidence they site four great jews
1. Jesus Christ
2. Karls Marx
3. Sigmund freud
4. Alber Einstein
Budhhism
Most modest religion. I think Budhha never said I am "god" or "son of a god" or " I am sent my god" or " if you donr follow me "you will go to hell". (i am neither buddhist nor i was born in Budhhist family). There is not a central authority in Budhhist religion. There is no provision of Dalai Lama" in Budhhism. In history they have suffered too. They tried to influence government and soceity through modesty not by force. Dalai Lama is exception I already mentioned there is no such things as "Dalai Lama" in Budhhism. That is just howm it is so easy for cunning people to bend the religion for personal benefit. And, God is unable to stop this "sin" . It was developed by cunning people to use Budhhism as their personal benefit like Christians have developed father/sisters/brothers preist.
Budhha said "dont worship me but follow my teachings". Budhhist are doing the opposite worshiping but not following his teachings. So in practice it is almost non existance.
Why we need religion
1. Do we need religion to become good person/good citizens ?
nope. In order to become good citizen you need to work hard. dont do things prohibited by law and pay taxes, thats it.
2. Do we need religion to donate money?
nope You can donate money without being a religious. you can donate dirrectly to needy. Your tax is a sort of donation to govt where it will be used for needy ( to some extent).
3. Do we need religion for peace?
Nope, in fact, if you take out religion from society approximately 70 % of world conflict will disppear. We will be in peace.You can be peaceful without a religion.
4. Do we need religion to go to heaven?
does heaven even exists?
History shows that
religion
1. Hindered the development of science and technology
2. Created conflicts that lasted hundereds of years among humans
Then why we need religion for ?
I do not beleive religion has anyhting to do with god or god created religion.
There were many unorganised religion developed as a "law" to govern the society. And at that time ther was no omnipotent government/transportation and communication so religion was developed. Later on as civilization needed more lawas, communities became more organised then organised religion started to appear they are, jewism/hinduism/Greek religion/Persian religion.
Those religion started to get old ( what happens when a human gets old?) lots of bad practice started to take precednce. Instead of doing good to humanity they started to become a burden to the society.
As the society moved forward it neeeded somehting different. And governments also started to become more and more promonent hence the Budhhisn emerged as new religion avoiding many bad practices of Hinduism. In middle east there was already a need of new revolution to fight against Rome and old religion. So, in middle east Jesus Christ started a revolution which later on became Christianity.
Its like Karl Marks wrote a book "das capital" he was paid by a publisher to wrtie a book about emerging problems in new industrialised Europe. I think Marks got 25 dollars or somehting like that for writing that book.
Lenin later thinking that book is the solution to the emerging problem of then Russia started a Revolution, in the begenning it succedded but eventually it failed because it had no consideration for human nature.
Christ started a revolution in Jerusalem, Rome was very powerfull so he was curcified (a common way of killing rebellains by Rome). but later his followers were able to dismantle rome and its religion
Offcourse at the time Rome became Christian, Roman empire was already a weak empire ( actually not even a empire). In human history no empire has lasted that long as roman empire.
Fall of Rome at the hand of Christian was a black day for science and technology. Christian started to become dominant religion of Europe. But at that time the Christian religious movement was already captured by "non competant/greedy people" so once Christian religion become dominant its cunning leaders used it for their personal benefit. Modern thoughts were punished. Science and technoly was forbiddon. Bible became sole source of everything and its interpreters father/priests/brother /sisters created a evil empire which lasted more that 1500 years. Authoritrin rule of Christianty destroyed the government ( because it stood against the ever hungry greed of priests). If you read the history of Europe after Europe fell into Christianity there was power struggle between church and government, finally church prevailed. and it lasted almost 1500 years.
Renaissance in Europe
Common people in Italy realised Christianity has enslaved tham , so renaissance (rebirth) started in Italy and by 1700 it engulfed entire europe. There was once again struggle of power between church and govt. church and kings. This time govt prevailed. (Because of these there are many big church/cathedrals in europe but they always remains empty. Mostly tourists visit those place.
Renaissance was real revolution for human kind, people started to think differently after renaissance many scientific discovery have been made.
Prists lost the judiciary power/ governing power but they knew how to survive they change the trick so they used human lust for heaven after death to collect the donation and keep themsleves.
If there was no christianity, what the world would look like today ?
Nobody knows how it would be today but based on the fact that 1) christinas punished scientific ideas and 2) after renaissance where christianty lost the power, many idea flourished and humen achieved a lot, so one possibility is that we could have colonised Mars by now if there is no Christianity, you never know.
Hinduism
Started as a natural religion worhiping sun/earth/water and fire . Because these things are very essentials for the survival of life as we know.
This religion keep on adding/ adopting many different practices. Because of this it never got chance to as powerfull as Christian religion but people are people they devised a cast system so that professionalism always emained within the family.
As we all know it is easy to pollute water in pond then the water in river. Because in river there is alwasy flow of fresh water. Becauses of cast system professnalism remained only withinn certain group so the flow of new idea was preventd. To save family dominance lots of bad practices were introduced. religion beacme polluted and finally it cripplled the society and its developement.
Only now you can feel new ideas /discoveries done by the people following hinduism as it was before.
Islamism
What can you expect from a teenager? feeling itself as invincible ?? comapred to other prominent religion Islam is a teenager. They always complain about everything which is not islamic. I think Christianity and Hinduism was like this after 1000 years of their fromation. Hinusim/budhhism/Christiany judaism even though behaved like this during their first 1000 years society was completely different then. Now many people dont feel the necessaty of any religon to guide their life. So in many instances islam is like odd man out. born in wrong time. And you know what muslims are most of the time, in receving end of the punishment. Isalm is not saving them. This is the main problem with Islam.
Judaism
Born as a natural religion , later accepting many cultural things during their revilution against Egyptin and Rome . Never had a chance to influence the government of many countries of that time. People suffered a lot in Judaism so Jews know how to manage money and how to fight for survival. Their money saving skill developed during scarcity worked a lot in later years. They spread,used that skill of trade and make profit They have suffered a lot in human history. Their religion didnt save them from all those suffering. And they are still struggling for survival.
By the way, most Jews think no other religion has contributed to human society like judaism. for evidence they site four great jews
1. Jesus Christ
2. Karls Marx
3. Sigmund freud
4. Alber Einstein
Budhhism
Most modest religion. I think Budhha never said I am "god" or "son of a god" or " I am sent my god" or " if you donr follow me "you will go to hell". (i am neither buddhist nor i was born in Budhhist family). There is not a central authority in Budhhist religion. There is no provision of Dalai Lama" in Budhhism. In history they have suffered too. They tried to influence government and soceity through modesty not by force. Dalai Lama is exception I already mentioned there is no such things as "Dalai Lama" in Budhhism. That is just howm it is so easy for cunning people to bend the religion for personal benefit. And, God is unable to stop this "sin" . It was developed by cunning people to use Budhhism as their personal benefit like Christians have developed father/sisters/brothers preist.
Budhha said "dont worship me but follow my teachings". Budhhist are doing the opposite worshiping but not following his teachings. So in practice it is almost non existance.
Why we need religion
1. Do we need religion to become good person/good citizens ?
nope. In order to become good citizen you need to work hard. dont do things prohibited by law and pay taxes, thats it.
2. Do we need religion to donate money?
nope You can donate money without being a religious. you can donate dirrectly to needy. Your tax is a sort of donation to govt where it will be used for needy ( to some extent).
3. Do we need religion for peace?
Nope, in fact, if you take out religion from society approximately 70 % of world conflict will disppear. We will be in peace.You can be peaceful without a religion.
4. Do we need religion to go to heaven?
does heaven even exists?
History shows that
religion
1. Hindered the development of science and technology
2. Created conflicts that lasted hundereds of years among humans
Then why we need religion for ?
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