Posted by: Daaku September 24, 2012
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-How hard is it for you to grasp that "Limbus" were called "Tsongs" in the kingdom of Sikkim?
-When the Yakthung people ousted their tyrant kings,in tribute to the the weapon with which the revolution succeeded,they started calling themselves "Limbu".Hence,it was the Yakthungs who christened hemselves as "Limbu",not the other way around.
-Limbus have inhabited Sikkim and intermarried Lepchas since time unknown.Bhutias are recent import.Limbus had a strong and large presence in Sikkim,so the Tsongs being exclusively persecuted is HIGHLY doubtful.Maybe a family,maybe a village...but the whole clan.Didn't happen.
The "Lho-Mon-Tsong-Sum" treaty i mentioned above,will give you a clear picture on how important the Tsongs were to the social fabric and sovereignty of Sikkim.
-The ten limbu kingdoms were
For someone who says Pawan Chamling is a Limbu(He is a Rai),i bet a single pubic hair of my left testicle that you didn't know the above and most probably don't know where they fall in present day Nepal.Are those kingdoms mentioned in Sikkim/Bhutan/Tibet history?It is for you to figure out.
-Gorkha -Limbuwan treaty happened in 1774 (a.d.).P.N shah was the king of Nepal.Except for Yangwarok and Ilam,the other Limbu principality kingdoms were annexed to Nepal through the treaty.
The Sikkim-Gorkha war in Limbuwan happened in 1775(a.d) and Pratap Singh Shah was the king of Nepal,P.N Shah had just died and most probably the tragic Nepali hero Bahadur Shah was overseeing the throne and was the architect of this war.Limbu king Yong Ya Hang of Yangwarok (Present day Taplejung and Panchthar) raised a limbu army.Limbu army consisted of the soldiers of his kingdom and unhappy citizens of the Limbu kingdoms that had just recently been annexed to Nepal.Long story short it was a war fought between Gorkha-Limbu alliance against the Sikkim Limbu allainace.The latter party lost.So the annexation of all Limbu principality kingdoms was completed with a treaty in 1774 and war in 1775.
So,No...Limbus did NOT hate the Sikkimese.The Limbu kings honored the treaty that was signed a year ago in which they had pledged their allegiance to the Shah kings.What was in the 1774 treaty,please read it.
By the way...tata.
-How hard is it for you to grasp that "Limbus" were called "Tsongs" in the kingdom of Sikkim?
-When the Yakthung people ousted their tyrant kings,in tribute to the the weapon with which the revolution succeeded,they started calling themselves "Limbu".Hence,it was the Yakthungs who christened hemselves as "Limbu",not the other way around.
-Limbus have inhabited Sikkim and intermarried Lepchas since time unknown.Bhutias are recent import.Limbus had a strong and large presence in Sikkim,so the Tsongs being exclusively persecuted is HIGHLY doubtful.Maybe a family,maybe a village...but the whole clan.Didn't happen.
The "Lho-Mon-Tsong-Sum" treaty i mentioned above,will give you a clear picture on how important the Tsongs were to the social fabric and sovereignty of Sikkim.
-The ten limbu kingdoms were
- Tambar ( capital:Tambar Yiok)
- Mewa ( capital:Meringden Yiok)
- Athraya( capital:Pomajong)
- Yangwarok ( capital:Hastapojong Yiok)
- Panthar ( capital: Yashok and Phedim).
- Phedap ( capital: Poklabung)
- Ilam ( capital:Phakphok)
- Bodhey ( capital:Shanguri Yiok)
- Thala( capital:Thala Yiok)
- Chethar( capital:Chamling Chimling Yiok)
For someone who says Pawan Chamling is a Limbu(He is a Rai),i bet a single pubic hair of my left testicle that you didn't know the above and most probably don't know where they fall in present day Nepal.Are those kingdoms mentioned in Sikkim/Bhutan/Tibet history?It is for you to figure out.
-Gorkha -Limbuwan treaty happened in 1774 (a.d.).P.N shah was the king of Nepal.Except for Yangwarok and Ilam,the other Limbu principality kingdoms were annexed to Nepal through the treaty.
The Sikkim-Gorkha war in Limbuwan happened in 1775(a.d) and Pratap Singh Shah was the king of Nepal,P.N Shah had just died and most probably the tragic Nepali hero Bahadur Shah was overseeing the throne and was the architect of this war.Limbu king Yong Ya Hang of Yangwarok (Present day Taplejung and Panchthar) raised a limbu army.Limbu army consisted of the soldiers of his kingdom and unhappy citizens of the Limbu kingdoms that had just recently been annexed to Nepal.Long story short it was a war fought between Gorkha-Limbu alliance against the Sikkim Limbu allainace.The latter party lost.So the annexation of all Limbu principality kingdoms was completed with a treaty in 1774 and war in 1775.
So,No...Limbus did NOT hate the Sikkimese.The Limbu kings honored the treaty that was signed a year ago in which they had pledged their allegiance to the Shah kings.What was in the 1774 treaty,please read it.
By the way...tata.