i am not asking you to agree with me.. until i practiced M.T i didn't think there was any good martial art either.. i just wante dto share some experence and my hobby.... not trying to brainwash anyone with anything.... you're right.. it depends on an individual how hard he /she works , their attitude and response towards a given situation.. however that does mean whaton they have put several hours of effort is meaningless.. like good education, good behavior, good car, good shoes, good food, there is good style of martial art too.. why not go for good is the question that i'm trying to address...