Nepe, We can go back and forth, and back and forth. But that would not change anything. Our difference remains the same. Having seen a series of examples (the last of which involved me), it's quite clear that you are someone who -- based on ZERO evidence -- makes sweepingly FALSE conclusions about others in public, even if that means relentlessly caricaturing other sides to score political points. That there could be -- for right or wrong reasons -- a whole spectrum of views out there is an alien concept to you. And that's fine. Just be aware that there are many people here who can see through all your tricks, and are not afraid to expose you for who you are: A foaming idealogue for whom democracy, as it is understood in the sense of allowing MULTIPLE viewpoints, is only a temporary khol. Now, have a good day in America's most exciting state: New Jersey oohi ashu