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 is complete democracry suitable for nepal?

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Posted on 10-29-05 11:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I believe complete democracy means the people who are selected/ elected by the people/junta rule the country and decide what is right or wrong for the country. But, for any mass of people to select the right person from their mass, at least 50% of the people should have a intellectual level so that they understand what is right and wrong and select the right person. In context of nepal, where merely not even 40% of the people are literate, how can the people with this level of intellectuality select the right person? i believe the nepalese are not capable of selecting the right person own their own..and the person selected by such a mass of people is bound to be not the appropriate person.. that has what happened to the previous person who were elected to be in the parliament/ sansad...the wrong person reached the position and the consequence manifested in the form of crisis we are facing now....So, i guess a form of controlled democracy is the need of Nepal in the current prospective... what do u guys think?
 
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Posted on 10-29-05 7:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The whole essence I think.
Doesn't matter Mr X is a bad guy!
Every human being lives for himself or herself. "Hello! we are just one person thinking!'
Funny! but true!
For god's sake!!!
first thing you want to know is you are deciding...... irrespective ? good or bad...

 
Posted on 10-29-05 7:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I have heard people talking about animal rights, that confuses me a lot.Is there any relation between rights and democracy.Well if so i would like to spit on the face of people who say my countrymen don't need democracy.
 
Posted on 10-29-05 7:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What a load of nonsense! Going by the reasoning used here it appears "complete dictatorship" by a corrupt Royal family is what the uneducated masses deserve. Let them eat cakes, eh? No accountability, no freedom to speak, financial irregularities, escalated violence - if the first nine months are anything to go by, democracy, oddly enough, doesn't seem like such a bad thing after all.


 
Posted on 10-29-05 9:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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democracy is not only suitable but also necessary. empower the people and if they are illiterate, it is all the more necessary!
 
Posted on 10-29-05 9:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Those who believe that-to select good people and for a good governing a certain level of intellectuality need not be reached by the majority of the people, I recommend them to look at the elected memebrs of parliament in the last election and the concequences thereafter.. and no doubt if the same is to repeat in the name of complete democracy I guess people with even worse mentality will reach power and rule us...
 
Posted on 10-30-05 12:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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those who believe a certain level of literacy (which is totally different from intellect) should look at the literacy figures of the united states circa 1780

people will not rule us anymore. we will rule ourselves. the rules we make will rule. let democracy commence.
 
Posted on 11-07-05 2:12 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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In context of nepal, where merely not even 40% of the people are literate, how can the people with this level of intellectuality select the right person?
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I dont think so - literacy is no garauntee that the populace will be given (or if given will want to) enough to inform themselves of the issues at hand...Much as I hate to say it - I think the real key to a democracy is an independent and (at least relatively) impartial news media - it is no coincidence that the majority of repressive regimes on this planet strictly control their news distribution services.

Literacy has little to do with it...the world is all about "spin control" and whoever controls the media, controls the masses. I fear that Democracy is in jeopardy as a result...so many people are lazy and let the media do their thinking for them.


 
Posted on 11-07-05 3:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, we need complete democracy. If you don't practice, you won't be learnt. This is the right time.
 
Posted on 11-07-05 7:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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यो पुरा प्रजातन्त्र र आधा प्रजातन्त्र भनेको के हो कुन्नी?????मेरो सानो दिमागले त केहि भेउ नै पाम्न सकेन लु!!!
अरु त अरु हाम्रा प्यारा राजाले नि प्रजान्त्र को कुरा गर्थे आफ्ना भाषणहरुमा, त्यो कस्तो खाले प्रजातन्त्र हो क्यारे??...:P
स्पष्ट बनाइदिम् न हो मलाइ यहाँ सुटक्कसंग!!!!....:D
Down with Royal Tyranny...
Let the Nepalese people rule...
...:)
 
Posted on 11-07-05 8:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If I may I would like to add words or two:
The sad reality of today's Nepal was clearly visible in a news report about Karnali zone if I am not mistaken in last year's dashain period.One of the renowned newspaper from kathmandu reported that there was no rice( for dashain tika purposes )available in the whole zone and knowing this government simply turned its blind eye to them.And this is just an example of how Kathmandu has treated its people outside capital.There are reasons why insurgency was born in the first place.
The ruthless and in-humane tactics that the rebels have used along with Prachanda's hollow ambition's are certainly condemnable.Nevertheless,there was always some urgency on the part of common Nepalese who were always denied justice to have their voice heard.The monarch which bases itself since the P.N.Shah's unification using means of violance embracing dogmatic beliefs of lord's incarnation on the crown just to keep ordinary Nepalese doomed is a major responsible factor in giving rise to this political dead-lock.
The power-hungry politicians are elites that claim to represent hard-working peasants and workers are the second most responsible factor in fueling the chaos.Simply looking at India and China's economic growth and thinking we are sandwiched between isn't going to deliver us capitalistic paradise.Down the road if not checked between the disparity between Bihar and Bangalore can give rise to India is sure to face more naxallites which will only make Maoists in Nepal stronger.The goodies is capitalist economic theory works for the wall-street brokers and software engineers not the farmer of bhitri madhes who is unaware what a machine called computer looks like.Before jumping in the capitalist democratic implementation looking at himalayan java and neon signs in every cross- roads of kathmandu the corrupt leaders of democratic parties should have calculated the future which we is today.
contd..
 
Posted on 11-07-05 9:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There is no complete democracy or incomplete democracy?Like churchill said"It is the best among all the worst political system".In the recent history democratic institution hasn't always resulted in social justice and responsible leaders.Hitler was elected in 1933 in germany through democratic means.It has its flaws too.But what is important is will it be able to deliver the social justice and harmony among the majority who rule and minorities who exist.Democracy is best exercised when majority rules and the rights of the minorities are protected as well.In Nepal it has always been the opposite.Minorities are treated as if they were literally non-existant.And what do we get as a result a revolt in our backyards.
My personal experience in Nepal and abroad has been this.With what I have experienced personally I always felt there was an urgent need of revolution against the higher-class elites of Nepal.I wish it was a non-violent one to establish a socialist model of democracy bringing all the corrupt elites and politicians to justice.Nepal is a country of peasants.Agriculture still is way of living for more than 70% Nepalese and what happens if you ignore them simply the world is heading towards post-modern time.Democracy sounds good to impress foreigners especially americans whose empirialistic vision is crumbling with the blood-shed for no other reason than greed.But to let those ordinary people who are still lagging behind giving them false hope instead of letting the democratic values penetrate in their hearts is hell of job.If you donot realize this sad reality of mud and soil where you were born and raised you will simply end up corrupting you mind, exercising nepotism,worshipping anything for power and going in jails finally continuing this vicious cycle.Democracy sounds good,complete democracy even better but to represent who you are suppose to represent( instead of coming to america and try to impress Jimmy Carter)thats a daunting task.

 
Posted on 11-07-05 9:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I have little different opinion on this than iZen. The people tend to forget the optimum point. We should try to get the optimum point of mixed capalist and socialist economy. Even US is not a total capitalist country. But I believe Nepal should open up to trade, however with certain restrictions in the beginning so that it can set its foot right.

There is no doubt that the Nepal is agriculture based economy. But the saddest part is that the fertile land is very less. So, the promotion of geography based trade should be promoted.

We need a revolution but it should be to bring justice and peace. It should not be just a grunge which maoist followers are doing it right now.

Transparency is one of the key factor. Time limit is other key factor. All the companies audited fin stmts should be published within time frame.The audit work should be done by independent auditor. There should be the committee of them which adheres to professinalism.

All the government orgns should be privatized. The govt can have its share but no poltical nominations. Political nomination is the biggest issues in govt orgns.

Democratically elected representatives should adhere the values of democracy. eg: Girija argued constituality of CIAA when they were drilling him. No body above the constitution.

I believe all the forces (monarch, maoists, parties and professionals) should work together to set up a frame work. It should be transparent and time should be of essence. Let the system filter out the corruptness and inefficiencies. Once a democracy is back. Bring a power back to the elected representatives. contd...

 
Posted on 11-07-05 11:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I don't think there is ANY country with Complete Democracy.

Let's not even waste time evaluating something like that.
 
Posted on 11-07-05 12:09 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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For us, the democracy means nothing but a right to julus, vandalize public property, burn the government vehicles, chakka-Jam and ekdum very long Nepal bandhs.
 
Posted on 11-07-05 1:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Kalankisthan
I agree with you. there has been a little development after we got so called democracy but not is the rate it should have been. Unless the people of nepal aer educated enough to know the meaning of nepal, democracy ain't gonna work!!!
 
Posted on 11-08-05 3:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Unless the people of nepal aer educated enough to know the meaning of nepal, democracy ain't gonna work!!!
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Oh and they are educated enough to know the meaning of Royalist..that they need to support it? hehe...
 
Posted on 11-08-05 3:25 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You guys remind me a "MUKTAK" would be great if someone retype in Devanagari.

Here it goes...

Vikas ko naam ma nepali le
Hawa khayera banchna sakne bhaye
Aakash odhera sutna sakne bhaye
Kati sajeelai hune thiyo veekas ko naara
Nepali le
Bhoko pet ma himaal herera hansna sakne bhaye..

....forgot writer's name..!!
 
Posted on 11-08-05 5:01 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I don't think anybody has the right to determine whether complete democracy is suitable in Nepal (or anywhere for that matter). Democracy is fundamental human right for all, period.
 
Posted on 11-08-05 7:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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'The Case For Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror' by Natan Sharansky could give much needed fodder for those who think peace can be achieved by suppressing individual freedom.
 
Posted on 11-08-05 1:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Few words:
We don't deserve democracy yet. I wanna get one step back to regression. We should go to Rana regime again, not only the panchayat era. Wait for couple of centuries again. In the mean time, let's increase our illiteracy level from 60% to higher level, and decrease our intellectual population than our current population by torturing them, and increasing more n' more tax on foreign books, and withhelding the rights of people to know the TRUTH.

Then, perhaps we'll be ready for real democracy after few centuries.
 



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