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 Why you can't trust the vaccines 100%

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Posted on 03-05-19 5:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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At some point in one's life, one has to consider one's position in the vaccine debate, specially after one has kids.

We probably grew up getting vaccinated and feel that we are doing fine. It is not surprising that most of us will blindly agree that vaccines are necessary to prevent certain diseases.

Back in the times when vaccines were created, they were created during times of need when having them available was matter of life and death, and they seems to have prevented and cured quite a few diseases.

Although, back in those days, these vaccines were meant to be beneficial, we need to spend a little time to reconsider few perspectives surrounding the usage of vaccines in today's world.

Whether we admit it or not, today is not the same as the late 1700's when the first smallpox vaccine was created. Back in those days, population was low, there weren't billions of human beings clamoring for the same limited resources as now. In addition to the explosion of population, the access to information is thousand times better than the past when these vaccines were first developed.

Even the people developing these vaccines were scientifically service oriented working on greater good because even they had not been influenced by the explosion of greed, which was gradually introduced into the world as the population and ease of information access grew. Back then, service oriented people would not have access to information to see what they were missing in life. Thesedays, everyone knows how poor they are compared to the rich and they try anything to become more rich. Greed has increased thousandfolds compared to back in those early vaccine days.

In addition to that, today the vaccine industry is a 30 billion dollar per year profit industry. With the amount of money and corruption flowing back and forth between politics and such industries, many decisions are being made without the benefit of the population in mind. There is rampant conflict of interest as politicians and profit maximizing industries share revolving doors for top executives. Thus, we find the director of FDA which is supposed to uphold the legitimacy of food and drugs, having special ties as well as financial benefactors of the industries that produce food and drugs. The CDC which mandates vaccines owns over 50 patents on different vaccines. So as normal human beings who cannot control these top level corruptions and conflicts of interest, one has to be aware of the chances of corruption in these vaccine industries which can have harsh adverse effects. Granted, that only a handful maybe affected but one cannot rule out the fact that they may possibly cause bigger medical issues during a persons lifetime if not right away.

We have seen many drugs recalled after people start dying or being affected in big numbers. These were from drugs which had been initially approved by FDA. Not only medicines we have seen grocery items being recalled after people have been badly effected or even died.
With this is mind, when we get vaccines, we are effectively putting in chemicals into our bloodstream and into our brain which most likely cannot be reversed. And to make the matters worse, the content of these vaccines are never clearly defined and the makers of vaccines are never liable for anything that can happen from vaccination.

One really hope that nothing bad happens to dear and near ones but one has to constantly be smart about these things which can collapse one's life totally if one becomes affected negatively by these vaccines. One has to be especially careful because everyday one can find people from all over the world who have had their children incapacitated or worse case.

As one can see even congress trying to make these vaccines mandatory, one has to be highly concerned because as a general citizen one cannot be sure about the ulterior reasons these vaccines are given continuously - about 54 doses of vaccines till a kid is 18. It is difficult to know whether these vaccines continue to thrive because they are presented in a profit chart for the vaccine industry as something to drive their profits instead of caring of people's health.

This is simply a reminder to many people who blindly want to believe whatever the vaccine industry tells them. You have to just be a little more educated and try to learn more about these vaccines before being blind supporter.



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Posted on 03-08-19 8:55 AM     [Snapshot: 1014]     Reply [Subscribe]
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nahcra

Measles outbreak in Minnesota is a no brainer. Look at the following graph for the US.

The measles numbers are like stock market there is barely any possibility of prediction. Many people attribute measles to growing number of foreign travel.

I am not saying vaccines never worked. They did work in the past during times of serious outbreak. But now there is high level of possibility that certain profit mongering institutions are simply milking it.

But, institutions like the media which are closely tied to the vaccines industry, love to spin any incident to their benefit. So they spinned this so called outbreak to anti-vaxxers posthumously. I bet you didn't know that the anti-vaxxers had something to do with this till you heard it in the news after the measles number went up.

These vaccines are supposed to protect the 'herd' when there is 90% people all vaccinated but if you look at the numbers less than 50% are vaccinated so the herd effect would hardly take any effect. On top of that, the profit centered vaccine industry encourages 'booster' vaccines so that they can keep charging more on top of what they already charged. They cannot stop being too greedy. Thus the booster shots are encouraged because the previous vaccine power wears off. So noone can even begin to guess how many people are actually 'protected' at any given time.

Yep, feel free to keep feeding onto the profit of these vaccine industries who have zero liability in case of any negative effects of vaccines.

To give you an idea, look at the number of pharmaceutical drugs that were recalled in 2018 alone: https://www.fda.gov/downloads/AboutFDA/Transparency/OpenGovernment/UCM625008.xml

Now, think about this for a moment. These pharmaceutical companies are liable for damages and even then, the FDA actually approved all these drugs which had to be recalled later. Now think about the vaccine industry which does not have any liability for damages and essentially with almost no recalls. Yes, please feel free to keep supporting their profit with blind faith.

 
Posted on 03-08-19 12:05 PM     [Snapshot: 1044]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, Big Pharma is making money from immunizations. But that doesn't mean anyone should skip the shots.Just because the industry makes money that doesn’t mean it’s bad ...Everyone wants to make money...if u think vaccine are so not useful I don’t think any government is blind enough to let children suffer from diseases and increase in fatality rate...
 
Posted on 03-08-19 12:17 PM     [Snapshot: 1055]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nahcra,

For me, this whole discussion stems because there is talk of mandating these vaccines.

I think from our conversation here, we can safely say that you pretty much have full faith in vaccines.

For fear of repeating same stuff over and over, let me ask you 2 questions, which are basically the crux of my issues.

1. Do you believe the vaccine manufacturers should be held liable for damages because right now they are not.

2. Do you support mandatory vaccines? - which even the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons came out with a press release saying they do not recommend. Read their statement here - https://aapsonline.org/measles-outbreak-and-federal-vaccine-mandates/


 
Posted on 03-08-19 1:01 PM     [Snapshot: 1072]     Reply [Subscribe]
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What damages and how do you prove damages?
 
Posted on 03-08-19 1:35 PM     [Snapshot: 1086]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@neurologist I think ur article clearly states that people are being compensated if they have damages from vaccines ..
Also yes vaccine is necessary because precaution is better than cure and lastly to conclude if diseases like measles and other vaccine related diseases exist in the world I would say so should vaccine “better safe than sorry” don’t jump into a bandwagon buddy with all these nonsense against science and research ..
 
Posted on 03-08-19 1:58 PM     [Snapshot: 1097]     Reply [Subscribe]
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The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons have said the following which is in their statement. Now, I suppose you guys are much more smarter than them and believe in vaccines more than them. Great going guys!


  • Manufacturers are virtually immune from product liability, so the incentive to develop safer products is much diminished. Manufacturers may even refuse to make available a product believed to be safer, such as monovalent measles vaccine in preference to MMR (measles-mumps-rubella). Consumer refusal is the only incentive to do better.
  • There are enormous conflicts of interest involving lucrative relationships with vaccine purveyors.
  • Research into possible vaccine adverse effects is being quashed, as is dissent by professionals.
  • There are many theoretical mechanisms for adverse effects from vaccines, especially in children with developing brains and immune systems. Note the devastating effects of Zika or rubella virus on developing humans, even though adults may have mild or asymptomatic infections. Many vaccines contain live viruses intended to cause a mild infection. Children’s brains are developing rapidly—any interference with the complex developmental symphony could be ruinous.
  • Vaccines are neither 100% safe nor 100% effective. Nor are they the only available means to control the spread of disease.

 
Posted on 03-08-19 2:11 PM     [Snapshot: 1104]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If any of you are parents and your children were born or grew up in the United States, you ‘ll see the damages with your own eyes soon or later. Those kids are already mentally messed up, it’s just time till they show it towards their parents.
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Posted on 03-08-19 2:39 PM     [Snapshot: 1117]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@neurologist I get it bro that your totally not for vaccine but I am more like your last point “Vaccines are neither 100% safe nor 100% effective. Nor are they the only available means to control the spread of disease.” skeptism is good but not the point where people start getting hurt .Vaccine might a be placebo (not that it is)but placebo is also a medicine and people have benefited from that #googleit .
@adrian bro what kind of pot your smoking bro ????
 
Posted on 03-08-19 4:49 PM     [Snapshot: 1139]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I just wanted to bring some awareness and I think it did not go to waste. This is my main point that I hope everyone considers. Whether they continue with vaccines or not, it does not matter. What matters is that people give it a thought.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons have said the following which is in their statement. Give it some thought.


  • Manufacturers are virtually immune from product liability, so the incentive to develop safer products is much diminished. Manufacturers may even refuse to make available a product believed to be safer, such as monovalent measles vaccine in preference to MMR (measles-mumps-rubella). Consumer refusal is the only incentive to do better.
  • There are enormous conflicts of interest involving lucrative relationships with vaccine purveyors.
  • Research into possible vaccine adverse effects is being quashed, as is dissent by professionals.
  • There are many theoretical mechanisms for adverse effects from vaccines, especially in children with developing brains and immune systems. Note the devastating effects of Zika or rubella virus on developing humans, even though adults may have mild or asymptomatic infections. Many vaccines contain live viruses intended to cause a mild infection. Children’s brains are developing rapidly—any interference with the complex developmental symphony could be ruinous.
  • Vaccines are neither 100% safe nor 100% effective. Nor are they the only available means to control the spread of disease.

 
Posted on 03-08-19 6:53 PM     [Snapshot: 1160]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@neurologist but my point( rounding off) why publish or share Dr.Sears video he argues on vaccination nothing like what u have lined up in your final point ...if your point is to give people attention about lucrative pharmaceuticals company why do you support Dr .Sears ..becuz he was alleged medical negligence and inappropriately writing medical exemptions for vaccines, has been placed on probation by the Medical Board of California until he fulfills the Board’s requirements to avoid revocation of his license.
 
Posted on 03-08-19 8:00 PM     [Snapshot: 1173]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Who is this dr sears and what video you talking about?
 
Posted on 03-08-19 9:28 PM     [Snapshot: 1189]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@neurologist Hahahahahaha half the video you posted are from Dr.Sears or theory related to that you clearly haven’t done your homework apart from copy pasting the link if you want to really know about vaccination and why people came up anti vaccine research more about Dr.Sears ..Also have you watched all the video from your thread ?Do you even know what videos are that you have pasted links for ?
 
Posted on 03-08-19 9:49 PM     [Snapshot: 1194]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dude focus on my main points. Those links were just shared as resources to get different views. Don’t waste too much time on those ;)
 
Posted on 03-09-19 11:35 AM     [Snapshot: 1281]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Some people will never get it even if truth is kicking them in the butt.

 
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Posted on 03-09-19 11:54 AM     [Snapshot: 1288]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"In total, the boy required nearly “8 weeks of inpatient care, followed by rehabilitation care, before he was able to resume normal activities,” the CDC said in the report. 

Excluding the costs of air transportation, inpatient rehabilitation and ambulatory follow-ups, inpatient charges for the boy totaled $811,929."

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/433160-unvaccinated-6-year-old-boy-from-oregon-was-states-first-tetanus-case-in


 
Posted on 03-11-19 10:33 AM     [Snapshot: 1411]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Media never promotes news when thousands of people lose their loved ones to vaccine injury but they will promote these ONE time incidents which agrees with their rhetoric of increasing profit for their masters, specially when they are afraid that the public is getting smarter. This is nothing but fear mongering at it's best and the loyal followers will fall in line pretty quickly with these kind of tactics, which they know too well.



Even cancer patients have to pay hundreds of thousands for their treatments, most of which is covered by the insurance but it's never in the news. The news doesn't show how much the family actually had to pay after insurance. Medical cost is ridiculous in the US.

 
Posted on 03-11-19 3:29 PM     [Snapshot: 1514]     Reply [Subscribe]
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What is wrong with you? We’re you dropped on your head as a child? Do you think all governments around the world which mandate vaccination do it for the benefit of the vaccine industry? Did you know that smallpox has all but disappeared because of vaccines? And vaccines aren’t what they used to be. They are vastly different from what they started off as. Why don’t you go take your children and go live in places like Afghanistan and Syria where Polio is making a comeback because of sporadic vaccination and then talk about people blindly vaccinating their children?

To the rest of you, please don’t listen to these half educated conspiracy theorists whose only research is reading Facebook post from others like them. Don’t put your children and others around them in harm’s way just to try to prove a point.
 
Posted on 03-11-19 4:27 PM     [Snapshot: 1546]     Reply [Subscribe]
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You remember the iraq war when the US invaded Iraq on premise of lies to the american public that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Saddam was a rich man and he had hold over trillions of $$ worth of gold and money owned by Iraqi rulers. All of those money never came out but someone now owns all of that money.

When we live in a time when the US govt lies to start wars for profit, you have to be very naive to believe in something 100 percent.

I am not trying to convince anyone of anything but spark that genuine desire to know more. If you don't have that genuine desire to know more and want to keep following the media blindly, then congratulations to you for your absolute knowledge.
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