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Posted on 03-05-19 5:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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At some point in one's life, one has to consider one's position in the vaccine debate, specially after one has kids.

We probably grew up getting vaccinated and feel that we are doing fine. It is not surprising that most of us will blindly agree that vaccines are necessary to prevent certain diseases.

Back in the times when vaccines were created, they were created during times of need when having them available was matter of life and death, and they seems to have prevented and cured quite a few diseases.

Although, back in those days, these vaccines were meant to be beneficial, we need to spend a little time to reconsider few perspectives surrounding the usage of vaccines in today's world.

Whether we admit it or not, today is not the same as the late 1700's when the first smallpox vaccine was created. Back in those days, population was low, there weren't billions of human beings clamoring for the same limited resources as now. In addition to the explosion of population, the access to information is thousand times better than the past when these vaccines were first developed.

Even the people developing these vaccines were scientifically service oriented working on greater good because even they had not been influenced by the explosion of greed, which was gradually introduced into the world as the population and ease of information access grew. Back then, service oriented people would not have access to information to see what they were missing in life. Thesedays, everyone knows how poor they are compared to the rich and they try anything to become more rich. Greed has increased thousandfolds compared to back in those early vaccine days.

In addition to that, today the vaccine industry is a 30 billion dollar per year profit industry. With the amount of money and corruption flowing back and forth between politics and such industries, many decisions are being made without the benefit of the population in mind. There is rampant conflict of interest as politicians and profit maximizing industries share revolving doors for top executives. Thus, we find the director of FDA which is supposed to uphold the legitimacy of food and drugs, having special ties as well as financial benefactors of the industries that produce food and drugs. The CDC which mandates vaccines owns over 50 patents on different vaccines. So as normal human beings who cannot control these top level corruptions and conflicts of interest, one has to be aware of the chances of corruption in these vaccine industries which can have harsh adverse effects. Granted, that only a handful maybe affected but one cannot rule out the fact that they may possibly cause bigger medical issues during a persons lifetime if not right away.

We have seen many drugs recalled after people start dying or being affected in big numbers. These were from drugs which had been initially approved by FDA. Not only medicines we have seen grocery items being recalled after people have been badly effected or even died.
With this is mind, when we get vaccines, we are effectively putting in chemicals into our bloodstream and into our brain which most likely cannot be reversed. And to make the matters worse, the content of these vaccines are never clearly defined and the makers of vaccines are never liable for anything that can happen from vaccination.

One really hope that nothing bad happens to dear and near ones but one has to constantly be smart about these things which can collapse one's life totally if one becomes affected negatively by these vaccines. One has to be especially careful because everyday one can find people from all over the world who have had their children incapacitated or worse case.

As one can see even congress trying to make these vaccines mandatory, one has to be highly concerned because as a general citizen one cannot be sure about the ulterior reasons these vaccines are given continuously - about 54 doses of vaccines till a kid is 18. It is difficult to know whether these vaccines continue to thrive because they are presented in a profit chart for the vaccine industry as something to drive their profits instead of caring of people's health.

This is simply a reminder to many people who blindly want to believe whatever the vaccine industry tells them. You have to just be a little more educated and try to learn more about these vaccines before being blind supporter.



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Posted on 03-05-19 6:14 PM     [Snapshot: 48]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Fk you dudestop spreding mis information about vaccines...just couple of google searched link doesn't prove anything ,educated yourself you moron.
 
Posted on 03-05-19 6:22 PM     [Snapshot: 57]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Not just vaccines, everything from pharmaceutical products to food industry, everything is made to control the mind of people by the elites. More you buy, more they become rich while the rest of the world becomes lazy, becomes sick, goes for treatment, buys more medicines takes vaccines, but still dies blah blah blah.........
Source: Google Search.
 
Posted on 03-05-19 6:40 PM     [Snapshot: 69]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Chaudhary also became a Billionaire by controlling the mind of people. People are addicted to Wai Wai and now affer eating wai wai all their life, many suffer from liver failure, renal failure, gastric, acute stress..... And for it’s treatment now, they also run Pharmaceutical company named CG Ayurveda.
Buy food, get sick, get treatment, buy medicines, again buy food, get sick................
Everything keeps revolving around. All the conglomerate industries of this world were/are built to make money. Nothing is service oriented and Nothing can be trusted in this World.

Source: Google Search
 
Posted on 03-05-19 10:08 PM     [Snapshot: 166]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Neurologist,
I am surprised you are saying this, given your name! If you are a neurologist, I am sure you would not fall for such BS. Yes, vaccines save you from deadly diseases and has saved millions of life since the first one was discovered.
Pharma companies are making money and are monetizing drug/ vaccine that is true. Of course, we have seen such companies/ people lose their ethics and moral values and just run for money. However, please do not spread such a BS.

We don't have smallpox, polio and so many other killer diseases these days- thanks to vaccines. A lot of these disease causing organisms are still in the wilderness- if you are not protected against them, you may get it. You may not be suffering from such disease because other people vaccinated and induced herd immunity.

Also, CDC is a federal organization- does not use patents to make money. They are not working like a pharma company for a profit. If you do not know, ask others who knows before you make your statement. If you want to know more about vaccines and the work CDC does, feel free to contact.

Public

 
Posted on 03-06-19 9:01 AM     [Snapshot: 275]     Reply [Subscribe]
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nahcra, you said:
"Fk you dudestop spreding mis information about vaccines...just couple of google searched link doesn't prove anything ,educated yourself you moron."

What exactly was the misinformation that I spread? I said be careful and be more aware. If saying be careful is spreading misinformation then I am afraid you have been so brainwashed that you will take poison if the media says it's good.

Also, not all google searches are wrong. Some are actually correct that's why billions of people use it.

My advice to you is to break out of your bubble and look at the world around you instead of following the herd blindly. I never said you cannot trust all vaccines - all I said is you cannot trust them 100%.



Public, you said:
"Also, CDC is a federal organization- does not use patents to make money. "
" If you do not know, ask others who knows before you make your statement. If you want to know more about vaccines and the work CDC does, feel free to contact."

It seems like you have also made the mistake of blindly trusting the misinformation spread by people who benefit from vaccines. You trust them so much that you are making up things and pretending to be knowledgeable about your beliefs.

This link should set your mind at ease: http://www.vaclib.org/legal/cdcpatents.htm

Click on those links, which are actual documents on patents. If you don't believe those links then God help you become more educated.






Here is something for people who want to force other concerned people to vaccinate

 "if the vaccinations truly work why are the people who vaccinate their kids worried if they are around those who don't? Don't the vaccinations protect them from any outbreak?"







Here's a video you should watch https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1874517636009573/



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Posted on 03-06-19 12:59 PM     [Snapshot: 353]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Again,if you were wise enough you take my point deeper sorry I got no time like yours to do google searches and provide some articulated video to prove my point it’s just that what I was taught in school and my general instinct backed my studies.And welcome to World my friend if your point is Pharmaceutical is making money from people selling bogus shits ,isn’t that what everyone does these days ? There are actually vaccines epidemic in states like Minnesota becuz of vaccines misinformation and narcissism view on it.Stop spreading mis information your not doing any good to anyone.
 
Posted on 03-06-19 1:12 PM     [Snapshot: 363]     Reply [Subscribe]
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A lot of people have been victims of vaccine injury and some of their injuries have been debilitating. Some people will never want to step outside their comfort zone and think twice about getting vaccinated. It is simply easier for them to believe what the vaccine industry tells them.

There have been many doctors who are now asking people to be careful after their own kids have been affected by vaccines. So it makes sense to be watchful about these issues that can mess up your life pretty bad.
 
Posted on 03-06-19 1:34 PM     [Snapshot: 377]     Reply [Subscribe]
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AntiVacc folks, how about you post some peer reviewed facts instead of copy pasting the AntiVacc Sites and its promoters.
Here's one from my side.
Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study : https://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/2727726/measles-mumps-rubella-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

Published: Ann Intern Med. 2019.

DOI: 10.7326/M18-2101

Abstract

Background: The hypothesized link between the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism continues to cause concern and challenge vaccine uptake.

Objective: To evaluate whether the MMR vaccine increases the risk for autism in children, subgroups of children, or time periods after vaccination.

Design: Nationwide cohort study.

Setting: Denmark.

Participants: 657 461 children born in Denmark from 1999 through 31 December 2010, with follow-up from 1 year of age and through 31 August 2013.

Measurements: Danish population registries were used to link information on MMR vaccination, autism diagnoses, other childhood vaccines, sibling history of autism, and autism risk factors to children in the cohort. Survival analysis of the time to autism diagnosis with Cox proportional hazards regression was used to estimate hazard ratios of autism according to MMR vaccination status, with adjustment for age, birth year, sex, other childhood vaccines, sibling history of autism, and autism risk factors (based on a disease risk score).

Results: During 5 025 754 person-years of follow-up, 6517 children were diagnosed with autism (incidence rate, 129.7 per 100,000 person-years). Comparing MMR-vaccinated with MMR-unvaccinated children yielded a fully adjusted autism hazard ratio of 0.93 (95% CI, 0.85 to 1.02). Similarly, no increased risk for autism after MMR vaccination was consistently observed in subgroups of children defined according to sibling history of autism, autism risk factors (based on a disease risk score) or other childhood vaccinations, or during specified time periods after vaccination.

Limitation: No individual medical chart review was performed.

Conclusion: The study strongly supports that MMR vaccination does not increase the risk for autism, does not trigger autism in susceptible children, and is not associated with clustering of autism cases after vaccination. It adds to previous studies through significant additional statistical power and by addressing hypotheses of susceptible subgroups and clustering of cases.

Primary Funding Source: Novo Nordisk Foundation and Danish Ministry of Health.

 
Posted on 03-06-19 1:39 PM     [Snapshot: 386]     Reply [Subscribe]
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And this, Principal Controversies in Vaccine Safety in the United States
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciz135/5316263
 
Posted on 03-06-19 1:48 PM     [Snapshot: 391]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Such a crock of shit. How about this?
My neighbor drank water everyday for 80 years, and one day he died. It must be the water that killed him, right. That's the kind of logic anti-vaccers use.
When you have a medical condition, anti-vaccers should not go to hospital because you don't believe in research and science (aka vaccines).

 
Posted on 03-06-19 2:31 PM     [Snapshot: 420]     Reply [Subscribe]
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People are jumping the gun here. This is not at all about being anti-vaccine. This is about being educated and concerned about vaccines any foul play can lead to horrendous results. That being said, I have outlined why there is a need to be vigilant about this industry as profit and money is becoming highly involved.

I am not here to antagonize any of you in trying to share my thoughts. I am only bringing to your attention the possibility of foul play. If you believe that there cannot be any foul play please simply listen to news about medicine recall and drug related injury because there were not enough research done before approving for public use.

Even old vaccines like polio are constantly evolving as pharma companies develop different methods and ingredients to apply the same vaccine. These new ingredients may not have been approved too quickly because the injuries reported have increased over time.

One would wish that one could trust these institutions blindly but that would only be naive with all the $$$ that is involved which influences politicians to make laws favorable to industry profits.

As one grows up watching TV and news owned by the same corporations that are deeply tied with the pharmaceutical and vaccine industry, it is difficult to even try to consider anything different than what the media tells you.

This is simply a public service message. People who are brainwashed deeply will not even want their sense of reality shattered by these simple but logical questions, and for them I truly feel sorry.

Stay blessed.
 
Posted on 03-06-19 6:18 PM     [Snapshot: 474]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Water is also rigged by the elites and 1% to control the mind of people. Have you ever witnessed Billionaires drinking tap water? Guess not.
 
Posted on 03-06-19 6:20 PM     [Snapshot: 478]     Reply [Subscribe]
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You buy food, eat the food that contains addictives, additives and hundred types of chemicals, get sick, get treatment, buy medicines, again buy food, get sick and so on........

Water and food today is more harmful than Vaccines and medicines.

Source: Google search
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Posted on 03-06-19 10:19 PM     [Snapshot: 546]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Neurologist,
You said "It seems like you have also made the mistake of blindly trusting the misinformation spread by people who benefit from vaccines. You trust them so much that you are making up things and pretending to be knowledgeable about your beliefs."
Yes, I trust them- because they are based on scientific evidence. They have done 100s of test before finalizing what works and what does not. They spend countless days and nights to find one working vaccine. And one conspiracy theory can ruin all that work! Wow!

Another contributor sjbrana said "A lot of people have been victims of vaccine injury and some of their injuries have been debilitating. Some people will never want to step outside their comfort zone and think twice about getting vaccinated"

Yes, during vaccination needle injury is one of the most common injury. Other risks are very rare. Unlike clinical science, public health works by comparing risk to benefit ratio in population level. Yes it is possible one out of a million might get some adverse reaction but the rest will be prevented from the killer diseases. Vast majority of vaccinated people benefit from vaccination.

Let me share something more, there are so many other vaccines discovered that you and I do not know. But why they are not in the use? Because they have not meet the safety level yet. They are doing more research. It is correct to question a science but some are very sensitive. Vaccine science is one very sensitive issue- thanks to stupid/ twisted article by Dr. Wakefield, published in 1998 and retracted later.

Please do not inflame sensitive issue!
 
Posted on 03-06-19 10:33 PM     [Snapshot: 556]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Public

I understand that you feel like you know everything. Just like you felt you knew everything when you said with strong conviction that CDC does not own any patents.

You did not care to retract your statement when presented with clear and precise proof of your incorrectness i.e.

" This link should set your mind at ease: http://www.vaclib.org/legal/cdcpatents.htm "

Your convictions seem to be based on your gut feelings and assumed version of reality.
 
Posted on 03-06-19 10:41 PM     [Snapshot: 562]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Neurologist,
You said, "I understand that you feel like you know everything. Just like you felt you knew everything when you said with strong conviction that CDC does not own any patents.

You did not care to retract your statement when presented with clear and precise proof of your incorrectness i.e."

Let me be clear- I did not say CDC does not have patents under their belt, what I said is "CDC does not make profit out of it's scientific research. I know the basic science of vaccine because I am an Epidemiologist and have worked in Immunization Safety.

If you are interested, we can chat over a coffee to help each other- if geography is not a challenge.
 
Posted on 03-07-19 6:50 AM     [Snapshot: 604]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Public

Glad to hear that you are an Epidemiologist, which makes this even more important.

We live our lives so compartmentalized that a police officer does not know of corruption going on in his department. Many doctors go throughout their career giving medicines and vaccines trusting the textbook knowledge they received at their respectable institutions. It's not their fault that the system is built around money in politics. So, just because you are an epidemiologist, no offence, it does not mean you are aware of how every vaccine gets into the syringe. You are probably aware of the implications of vaccines and their textbook definitions, and media justifications. You cannot possibly be 100% sure that there are no profit oriented policies that got approved. Once the money reaches certain pockets, certain laws gets passed. Vaccine industry makes 30 billion profit every year.

Don't tell me you haven't heard of medicine recall and big lawsuits pertaining to harmful medicine. This same kind of malpractice can easily happen within vaccine industry but at a higher scale due to the vaccine manufacturers not being liable legally for any kind of damage. Think of how much $$$ must have exchanged hands for such a law to be in place. $30 Billion profits and no liability - yes let's keep adding more and more vaccines to give to kids so the manufacturers keep adding to their bank account while the common people fight to make sure they keep generating their profits.


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No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22
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I read an article on vaccination a long time ago. If you vaccinate using ~54 different types of vaccine, your death is immediate. I neither vaccinate against flu nor let my kids be vaccinated every year, even when pediatricians highly recommend. Vaccination against flu sounds more like a scam.
Any thoughts?
 



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