all this talk about a constituent assembly etc.. great.. but isnt the only hindu country of the world supposed to have a king...well i guess the mao's will eventually make us change our religion too...

I am not a Maoist supporter but I do agree with one of their demands, that is: Nepal should be a secular country, period.

Well I dont see Any Problem In,Calling Nepal A Hindu Nation,
Cause It Has Notthing to Do with My Personal Life,

i am not proud that nepal is called hindu nation. it should be called abode of peace, abode of regilion.
i heard Gyan is a god ?
is it true?

bornfree says:-->>"i heard Gyan is a god ? is it true?"

I will say yes it is true, Gyan = Knowledge and knowledge is God. If you are talking about "Gyane" then its wrong. He is Devil :-)>

Peace

that's what most of the nepalis think that our king is a incarnation of GOD right. it is simply outrageous and laughable. this i happened to know when i went to nepal the very first time in 1997.
i think some belief of Hindu sux............
like Hindu created caste system
Hindu created dowry system
Hindu created a syetem of burning wife on her husband funeral.
Cremating dead bodies and throwing in the so call Holy river was gruesome.


what do you think

in my opinion i dont think nepal should be a hindu nation b/c u know i mean all these religion and stuff and god bla bala bla who knows if its true and i think its holding us back as a nation i mean in 21st century this sounds all non sense
bornfree- who told u that hinduism created dowry system and cast system saati parampara hinduism didnt created all this the society did. wow u think cremating body is grusome hahhahahahaha wont u the one who said that the king should use real bullets and u dont care if ppl in nepal die
u make me really angry man i wish i could meet u and give u 2 jaapad ani tero budhi theghan ma aau cha gadha

I strongly support the Maoist goal of secular state.

Why they did not declare the US or Canada a Christian state ?

tanushri dude or gal. refresh your memory.
firstly i didn't say "the king should use real bullets and u dont care if ppl in nepal die"
when did i ever said this. i think you must have heardit from someone.
trust me it's not me. i have never posted this sentenace on sajha.
prove me wrong if you have doubt!

Ok but maybe Hinduism didn't created dowry and caste system. But why was it practise in India and Nepal only and by hindus.
Why is that in Nepal i heard people saying "thula jat" and "sanu jat"?
who invented so call untouchable caste? it make me sick.
That's why i conclude Hinduism created such system.

yeah creamating bodies openly outside that temple beside that river was gruesome.
Smell and the sight was terrible. Then all those ashes including body parts which has not been burn completely thrown into the river,polluting it the so call holy river. what is this man. don't you called that gruesome.

If creamation, why can't it be done in proper manner. Why can't the government built a crematarium hut. I have seen in some develope countries.

I believe burial is the best solution. Some caste in nepal bury their dead and it was sooooooo nice to see this.

No religion is bad. Gyane may be a follower of Hinduism, but so am i and more than 80% of thre Nepalese.

Every religion has their own shortcomings. No religion is perfect.

The best thing about Hinduism is that you can criticise to any extent about the nuances in it, and you are left6 unharmed. Try doing the same about islam in Pakistan or Saudi arabia or even in muslim areas of Baanke/ Sunsari, and you will know the difference between hinduism and other religions.

In Hinduism, I don't need to go to the temple to prove that I am a Hindu. There is no such obligation like praying 5 times a day, going to Church every Sunday or a mosque every Friday.

In Hinduism you are not a born sinner, who always repents and keeps on asking the lord for mercy and forgiving for all sins. Hinduism doesn't believe in spreading the doctrine and converting others.

Hinduism is not formed by one person and it is very broad with different schools which can coexist within the same doctrine. One can follow multiple gods theory as is popular, or One can follow the Upanishads which says that there is only one god, or u can follow the Lokayata/ Charvak darshan which says eat, drink n be merry as there is no god n no afterlife, or u can follow Gita which stresses your work is your god or you can follow Yoga as your main religion. So the rubric of Hinduism is broad and one can follow any school he likes. U r free to choose, and can still be a hindu.

Nepal is a hindu country, but has any other religion been discriminated here? For religious discrimination, go to Pakistan or gulf.

Does secularism improve anything? If yes, then why there are more religious fanatics in secular India than in nepal ? And how many countries in the world are secular? Are Italy, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, or France secular? And what about Vatican City?

Maoism and Secular state? A big joke. Mao-Marxist philosophy, which proclaims "Religion is an opium", can they ever, even think of any religion? Let alone being secular?

Well people may prefer burial, but cremation in electric crematorium ain't that bad than unnecessarily occupying lot of space and land for the deceased. There are many landless people who will greatly benefit, rather that using land for the deceased who don't need it anyway.

And about cremation being gruesome, what about the funeral rites of the Persians? bodies left in towers of silence where vultures can consume it? Every religion has their own rites and rituals.

So no religion is bad, you have to take the good points and leave the bad ones behind, that is being constructive. Rather that lambasting without knowing what one is talking about.

Samir28
Dude...why not look into a dictionairy for the meaning of "secular" and make a comment. It's making you look stupid.

I am talking about 'secular' as pertaining to religion, not 'secular' in its literal meaning.

bornfree- sorry i though u were the one who said that but never mind

well u said it urself that hindusim didnt create these things and i said it earlier that society did. i dont know wht else to tell u to clairify this. i also think that the untouchable system is really sad and ppl who practice it make me really really angry i just wanna go beat them up u know but i think the society in nepal is changing and especially in kath and aba ko 5-6 barsa ma ta yo chalan janchaa hola ani aru nepal ko part ma pani yo sare ra katham humcha tesaii but i think its our prority as educated nepali to go to these parts in nepal and educate them abt how shitty this practice is
i m sorry that u think that our culture and the way we believe that a dead persons body should be cremated is grusom and sick. but when i die i hope they cremate me i dont want to be buried b/c wht if someone decides to dig that place up and find my skeletons and steals my jewelary and stuff and besides if u get burried u become bhoot hehehe i m kidding
but i think u must be some other religion fanatic who just wants to come here and create a comotion and insult other ppl's religion
"If creamation, why can't it be done in proper manner. Why can't the government built a crematarium hut." huh why r u telling us this i aint no government and do u think any of us here r any govt officials heheheeh oh funny

r u no nepali u talk as if u r some other bideshi who saw all this and was like "oh dam i m so kharai( this is how u say foreigner in nepali just incase u dont know) and and and i m oh oh terrible grusome sick" hehhehe

Nepal should not be a hindu nation, if you ask me.

no Tanushri i am not other religious fanactic. I am a Hindu. My parents are Hindu. But just that i am more liberlise and sees good and bad point of every religion.
The things i wrote down are things that disgust me that are invented or practised by Hindu so i wanna erode this practise as soon as possible especially caste system.
Well creamation is your choice but the government should do something about it man.
don't just burnt it outside that temple.
finally don't write to me in nepali....cause i sux in nepali.
didn't go to nepali school.

Samir28 dude
The word 'secular' is always tied to the word religion....what the hell are you talking about.. ?

'Secular' simply means not endorsing any particular religion. For example, the US and Canada are secular nations. For the sake of fairness ,the constitution and it's laws, a secular country does not endorse any religion or parctices of any religion.

so u went to school in usa?? like high school

Nepal is 'hindu country' by name but in practice it is secular country.
As hindu-bhddhist form more than 93% of population I dont think it is bad to call nepal 'hindu' country. For non-hindu nepalis probably being secular in practice is enough. So far religion has not been important issue in nepal except one or two events.

Nepal should not be a hindu state. i support samir on most of his views

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Ok, the concept of King revered as the incarnation of Vishnu only started when King Mahendra went to Budanilkanta and saw snakes on the street, presumely preventing him from visiting the temple (well, thoughts were that he wasn't allowed to visit his own shrine), thus the narayan temple was established in the palace area. Hindu scriptures never talks about King being an incarnate of any form.

People talk about caste system, sati system and dowry system created by Hindu to be bad. There are purposes that these systems were placed in the societies to run smoothly. They were only corrupted by the priests of the temples who were only the learned Brahmins for a little financial gains.

Caste System was created to divide the labor. The untouchables are extremely new compared to the actual caste system. In vedic times and even the ealy times of the last millenium, the lower castes were revered because they were actual ones who provided with all things that people wanted to ease and comfort their living.

Sati was created again much much later and you do not find any mention of sati in any of the hindu scriptures. Widows were very very discriminated, and people thougth sati was the best way out. so, it was actually the women who started sati system. over time, again, this got caught as god's message by the priests and was made regular, when sati was only optional to all widows.

Dowry was all started by the bride's parents, to help their daughters in bad times when they go to their new homes. Again, this got corrupted. Again, Dowry is not part of Hinduism.

I agree with samir28's views. Hinduism is the only inclusive religion of the world. There are many gods and no gods. it can define you as a simple creature that has the capability to make reasons, or simply a creation. Hinduism does not ONLY (just) believe in idol worship. idol worship is only a medium to achieve moksha through Bhakti, when one praises the might of supreme beings. There are other methods memtioned to fine happienss and life free from sufferings. Hinduism is not that bad after all.

To retain Nepal as a Hindu state is merely symbolic to stay atop in the world community as a follower of an doctrine that everyone else thinks is wrong. Cow is sacred in Nepal and should be illegal to kill one in Nepal as it is the national animal just like it is illegal to kill a golden eagle in the United States, or a peacock in india. Hindus all over the world can at least claim to have a land of their own doctrine, as the Christians do for Vatican, Jewish do for israel, Buddhist do for Tibet (Dalai Lama), and muslims do for Iran, and middel east.

Sujanks you go dude.....