Maoist brutality

With a detailed documentation and a gross photographs of brutalities committed by the Maoists appearing every now and then it definately appears as if Maoist are far more inhumane than RNA and police.

Thanks to the policy of RNA and police, the policy practiced over the years allows RNA and police to committ the very similar brutal acts in absolute secrecy. Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.

Maoist are damnn stupid. May be their image might not have had tarnished to this level and would not have appeared that brutal in the eyes among us if they have had followed the same policy as RNA and police of Shoot, Shovel and Stut up.

Who would have possibly ever find about the person in the picture(at the begining of this thread)was ever killed so brutally if they had followed the same policy of Shoot, Shovel and Shut up like RNA and police ?

May be the Maoist commanders should revise their policy on this regard.........ha ha ha ha

indira Didi,
I am not surprised, at least; you do believe Maoists are brutal. But I have some arguments with your frivolous comments on Maoist being frank to admit their brutality. To some extend, I am confused; if that is a political humor or serious facts!
As far as I know; "terrorism is the use of force and threats to frighten people into obeying completely." It means, in your own words; Maoist are frankly admitting that are terrorizing Nepali by taking the responsibility of such action no matter how poorly they justify their actions behind their act.

PresidentofNepal dude

who the heck is Indra Didi ?

Anyway,It's both, humor and facts. Almost like asking someone "who is more brutal among two murderers".

By the way thanks for accecpting the defination in which in your own words, "Terrorism is a use of force or threats to frighten people into obeying completely."

I agree with you more than ever. "Operation Romeo" and "Operation Kilo Shera 2" in the vilages of Rolpa, Rukum, Jajarkot etc launched by Nepal Police commandos in 1998 are one of the typical examples of waves of terror (for which Baburam and Prachanda must have had thanked Nepal Police commandos for spreading such waves of terror. )

Presidentofnepal aka pres bainii.. let this be my last addressed sentence ending the fruitless quest for stinking humor.

" am not surprised, at least; you do believe Maoists are brutal. But I have some arguments with your frivolous comments on Maoist being frank to admit their brutality. To some extend, I am confused; if that is a political humor or serious facts!
As far as I know; "terrorism is the use of force and threats to frighten people into obeying completely." It means, in your own words; Maoist are frankly admitting that are terrorizing Nepali by taking the responsibility of such action no matter how poorly they justify their actions behind their act"

---------- Please refer to what i wrote. In your obsession to stick with your humor, you perhaps missed WHO wrote WHAT. Apart from me believing the FACT that Maoist are brutal, rest of your gibberish though valid, is directed towards wrong person.

And as for myself, for so much of saying, maoist should have done been more discreet and followed "the same policy of Shoot, Shovel and Shut up like RNA and police " and revising the policy, my humble opinion netaa ji is............. they CAN/WILL not do that.

Nope, not becasue they are STUPID. But because, they need to instill FEAR, and are cohesive TERRORISTS who can hide many of the dead bodies of their commarades but would care less to hide their victims mercilessly abused &/ or killed.

you see, terrorist by nature, has to use this tacticts to show their brutality and thus to suceed in their sick motive, as presidentofusa mentioned,"terrorism is the use of force and threats to frighten people into obeying completely". What better way to do this other than let people SEE how inhuman, heartless these Son of a B****S they are. Period.

If you would ask me, both RNA and maoist are guilty, but the point here, if i am not mistaken is WHOZ more responsible and are they equally to be blamed. Now, lets ask ourselves, if some mad men starts to fire indiscriminately and are killing people, could the other group trying to shoot down those mad men to protect the people (although some better killed aka those useless politicians and corrupt leaders) in general, but also hurts the people, EQUALLY responsible?

Logically, i presume the answer should be NO.

Rest, to each to their own.

Indisguise:)

Well, it very possible to come to an argument that Maoist do not necessary want to cause a large civillian casulty but rather likes to make a point by killing few with maximum brutality so that they set that up as an example at the cost of some lives therefore installing fear.

May be people have to make a hard choice between "living in fear" because of the Maoist or "not living at all" because of the policy of RNA and police.

In the last paragraph you have brought a notion which basically means (from the example of mad men shooting at people indiscrminately) Maoist are killing or brutalizing people indiscriminately. Looking at the various rebel movements around the world I guess Maoists have been far more selective in targeting (at least more than than RNA) than various rebel groups around.

Would any foreigners even attempt to go into the territory held by FARC (another communist rebel movement) in Columbia since last 40 years. So many times they have taken foreign nationals as hostages and killed because these foreigners ventured inside their territory and FARC territory is NO GO zone for any foreigners no matter what.

At least the nepali Maoists have been allowing foreigners venturing into their territory after collecing 10-15$ in so called "TAX".

IndisGuise ji,
I am also sick of calling you didi for no reason and feel the same; "fruitless quest for stinking humor."

"Operation Romeo" and "Operation Kilo Shera 2" were two major mistakes done by Nepal police that still resound in the mind of Rukumeli and Rolpali janatas.

................"But past mistakes should not be taken into considerations to judge present right doings"..........................................


President of nepal, year 2035.............

the pictures posted by usofa are from nepal police's website: www.nepalpolice.gov.np, but the point is that although the media can't or chooses not to report the atrocities of RNA as it does to that of maoists.

as for the definition of terrorism, which some guys have brought forth for discussion, violence done by the state to maintain its hold on the power is also terrorism. and in the case of nepal, never be taken by the illusion that what RNA is doing is for the good of the common people. No, it's more for the king, and the shahs and the rana elites. the maosts might have the intention of doing for the good of the people, but so far their actions have proved that they have little control over what they want their cadres to do.

This might help neeta_ji and indisguise............
If you have to fight
Fight by the rules
NARESH NEWAR

It is an indication of just how seriously the world now takes the brutality of Nepal?s conflict that someone like Louise Arbour was here this week.

The former Canadian supreme court justice is a name associated with genocides in Rwanda and ex-Yugoslavia. She specialises in bringing war criminals to justice through international tribunals like she did the massacre perpetrators from Rwanda as well as Yugoslav president, Slobodan Milosevic.

Her presence in Nepal should have sent a chill down the spine of every commander and political or rebel leader under whose watch human rights atrocities are being committed. More than 12,000 Nepalis have lost their lives in the last nine years: most of them are unarmed civilians, butchered, disappeared, killed after arbitrary arrests and torture.

This week in Kathmandu, Arbour was outspoken in her criticism of state security and the Maoists and warned them that they would be held to account. ?In every part of the world, political and military leaders who thought themselves immune from persecution are now answering before the law for the gross human rights abuses they perpetrated,? Arbour said.

Nepal has signed more than a dozen international treaties and instruments that would allow the UN to get Nepali human rights violators into international courts. ?They are more than enough for the UN Security Council to set up tribunals for Nepali perpetrators,? Sher Bahadur KC of the Nepal Bar Association and international lawyer told us, ?and Arbour was here to assess the human rights situation under that UN provision.?

Arbour met King Gyanendra, Prime Minister Deuba, COAS Pyar Jung Thapa conveying her concern that there have been very few serious investigations and convictions of human rights abuses. The army was also given the message that human rights violations at home would affect the future of its UN peacekeeping operations abroad.

Arbour also met human rights activists and relatives of the disappeared. But her harshest words were for the Maoists who she warned shouldn?t think they exist in a legal vacuum. She told us: ?I would like to warn the leaders of the insurgency not to misread developments in the wider world nor to believe that they can operate outside of the law.? She said she was most concerned about the abductions of children, forced displacement of families, murders and extortion by the rebels. But even while Arbour was still in Nepal, Maoists went ahead with the abduction of 500 students and teachers in Dadeldhura and 750 in Sankhuwasabha for their indoctrination programs.

A UN team on involuntary disappearances was in Nepal last month and is scheduled to present its report in the run-up to a hearing on Nepal scheduled for March. Arbour?s office in Geneva will be looking at
progress till then.

PresidentofNepal

What kind of argument is that "but past mistakes should not be taken into account to judge present right doings"

If past mistakes were not taken into account, on what grounds would you take right directions for the present or the future ?

If such were the case, the leaders of the Nazi high command and the members of Nazi SS Guards would have been set free after the Allied Forces defeated German Armed Forces. Today no one would be able to remember Nazi Holocust and in such senario World War 3 would have followed just 20-25 years after the World War 2 ended in 1945.

Prithavi Narayan did not fight by Rule of Rights, Peace, Treaty, Law and Friendship.

Prithavi Narayan gave ordered to cut more than 100 pounds of tongs innocent Kirtipures people. Pritahvi Narayan make friendly relationship with king of Patan and Kathmandu, and attacked illegally in festivals while innocent people where brutally killed. In history of Nepal, Prithavi Narayan was the unrespectable and moral less king compare than other king. Back in historical time, two nations or two kings fought with agreement of battle rules like ? fight only in battleground and fight in daylight but stop in evening. But Prithavi Narayan broke so many treaties, rules and betrayed friendship. Pritavi Narayan Shah is a cheater than braver and dignitary.

Nepal has more than 40 years of Democracy. Moral less and Corrupted Nepalese Criminals never play in or respect the rules of democracy, human rights and Law.

To play by rule: There must be true democracy, human rights, justice, constitution, law and order. There must be educated and civilize people, society, religion and culture. There must be value, responsible, moral and respect in humans.

Otherwise, rule never ever works with Criminals.

NITU ; AGREED! NO SYSTEM IS BAD UNTIL N UNLESS THE PEOPLE RULING IT ARE HONEST! WHEN WE STUDY THE HISTORY OF NEPAL EVERY MAJOR CHANGES IN POLITICAL SITUATION HAS OCCURED AFTER AN ASSASSINATION, MAY IT BE FROM PRTIHVI NARAYAN OR JUNGA B. OR THE RULING PRESENT SHAH DYNASTY. LET?S HOPE FOR GOOD JO HOTA HAI ACHHEKE LIYE HOTA HAI!!!

ASTU!!!

The funny thing about Nepali politics is that people like to see an absolute consensus in democracy. Well, general consensus is attainable however no where in the world I have ever seen absolute consensus an any issue.