When i was a kid (or when i was in Nepal), i used to believe in God. I did however have reservations on religion but i still believed in God. Its been a year in US now and having met people from other cultures, the existence of a supreme being doesnt make sense anymore. 

I think that believeing in GOd instills in a person faith, confidence and positivity to get through good times and be appreciative of the bad ones. I want my children to have these qualities so i dont want to tell them that GOd doesnt exist. Moreover, i cant imagine what my parents/relatives will make of me when i talk to them about this. It isnt going to be pretty. 

It does give me great discomfort to think about all this. I must admit i feel less confident and more pessimistic these days. I want to believe in God but my logic doesnt give in anymore. In fact, i get irritated when i hear things like "God COMMANDED you to.." "GOd will PUNISH you if..", "We are SERVANTS in from of Him" "(on Christianity): "Jesus died on the cross for you"(THere are many who have made a similar magnitude of sacrifice). 

I think that God and religion are ancient theories that havent been discarded yet. And it hasnt due to the fear in people of what might happen if they didnt. One of my teachers once said "if there is no god and you believe in god, there is no harm but if there is god and you dont believe in god, there is harm". i feel this and cultural and social stigmas lead people to be religious and not question their beliefs. 

I wanna know what you guys make of this.

Homey sir i do.

Chaurey,

Didn't I apologize to you already?

Chaurey,

If I didn't apologize to you before. I do so now. That Rajesh dai story was uncalled for. You had already respectfully given me permission to tell my story.

I'm sorry.

"The point is that I don't need to tell my story at all. The point is, I couldn't care less if you think my story is real or not. The point is, I don't consider you to be that important for me to me to need your validation before my story has validity. You are just not that important to me."

Sorry to barge in again. Homiji,  I read these sentences a few times, and some more, and pondered over them. I also changed my story to "my religion" a few times. Then it hit me. It is eeriely similar to a lot of religious radicalism that exists in the world today who think on a very similar line. Please prove me wrong or else my disappointment will linger through thanxgiving :).

homey ra chaurey ley aba khukuri ra tarbar liyera maidaan ma matra  utrina baaki !!!

why the heck such a thickheaded numbnuts are trolling this page..
homiji, already mentioned he doesn't need to prove anything, he was just saying he put forth his thought..
...but still effing trolls
they're everywhere..
;)

Pulsar Beats,

While I'm rubbing my tummy from enjoying my thanks giving dinner, I'll be praying to God that your thoughts are not affecting the digestion of your Thanks Giving meal. How's that? 

I think I'm done arguing on this thread for today. But thanks for the invitation.

so what happened to your story? experiences? ..... still waiting!

do you believe in kichkandi?

Kichkandis suck!

No really, isn't that what they do? They are like witches that suck blood right?

i think you are mistaking "juga" for "kichkandi"

One person who has caused a huge paradigm shift in the Western world is: Deepak Chopra
http://www.amazon.com/Ageless-Body-Timeless-Mind-Alternative/dp/0517882124

Allopathy focuses on curing once the disease happens. Ayurveda focuses on prevention. Pharmaceutical companies are becoming very wealthy by selling their expensive medicines. That is why they don't want a lot of people to know about Ayurveda.

Dr Chopra has redefined what it means to be healthy. There are Nepalis who blow off Ayurveda as bakwas because it does not operate according to the allopathic paradigm of medicine. But that doesn't mean that Ayurveda does not have benefits. Dr Chopra has been able to present many types of therapies like magnetic therapy and aroma therapy. These therapies operate according to a very different model than that operated by allopathic medicine. But many people are using this therapy very effectively and are benefitting from it.

Chopra talks about the importancce of body mind and spirit working in harmony instead of working against each other. This is a completely different model than the biological model presented by allopathy--by the hard sciences. But since it has been benefitting so many people and has been helping them to be healthy and satisfied, how can you say that it is bakwas and BS nonsense?

If something helps you to be healthy and happy and satisfied, isn't that all the proof you need? Why do you need someone else to tell you how to be happy, healthy and satisfied? If you feel it, then you know it. What other proof do you need?

Ayurveda is not proof of God!

Basically, we are arguing about your basis to proof versus my basis to proof.

Ayurveda is based on an alternative paradigm to hard-science. The proof of it's effectiveness is not measured on the same basis as experiments you perform in a de-humanized labratory.

The proof of ayurveda and a lot of alternative therapies is in the pudding. It is subjectively measured by the effect on the patient. Proof of satisfaction from experiences of God is also subjectively measured. That is what religion is.

Proof from the hard sciences is necessary, but not sufficient to explain the basis of human satisfaction.

Ayurvedic medicine and Scientific medicine are comparable to English and Hindi language.

Ayurvedic medicine also consists of different ingredients that is supposed to cure just like the traditional scientific medicine.

Ayurvedic medicine is created by age old experience that is known to work rather than scientific experimentation.

You could compare the difference between Ayurvedic medicine and scientific medicine to the difference between Hinduism and Christianity.

You can compare the difference between having God and not having god to something like having medicine or not having medicine.

But your comparision about ayurvedic medicine is just wrong to prove there is God. Can you tell us how exactly ayurvedic medicine proves there is god? 

Ayurvedic medicine is also science. It cures certain ailments so it is "Proven" that it works.

How is god "proven"??

Rethink,

Why are you choosing to interpret all my words as proof of God or lack of proof?

Stop flattering yourself by giving yourself undue importance. The world does not stop turning because 'rethink' or 'Chaurey' believes or  doesn't believe in God.

What makes you think that everything that I am saying that I am proving God or not to you? Why are you giving yourself that much importance that you are interpreting everything I say as somehow giving *you* proof of God or not?

We are talking about belief systems. Not about what you personally "rethink" believe.

I care about belief systems. I can't be bothered of what insignificant individuals like you believe or don't believe. Who cares what you believe and why? Why should it matter to me? Who do you think you are?

You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself if you think that everyone in the world needs to prove what they believe and why to you "Rethink" before they can be ok with themselves for believing it.

From where did you develop such arrogance? Are you an authority of any sort?

Please scan and upload all proof of all your qualifications that gives you the arrogance to questoin everyone in the world about why they believe what they believe?

Ha ha ha. You must think that you are God, if you believe that everyone in the world needs to submit proof to you before they can believe what they believe.

Homeyji

You said it was the proof but in my opinion that was not a reasonable proof. No need to blow your fuse! You are beginning to act like a fanatic ready to kick ass of people who question your logic.

I am a nobody and you are a nobody we are nothing but specks of dust in this grand universe, and God- god is a speck of imagination of the dust because the dust thinks he's something big.

LOL

bottom line is you don't have anything substantial other than beating around the bush with your irrelevent stories. You said you were going to share your experiences which has made you so sure of GODs existence, yet you have not said a single word about it. All you have done is rant about stupid stuff. why don't you word out your GODLY experience to the best as you can.  

Yes sir Chaurey,

Since you are my Lord and Master, and you have ordered me so rudely, I will get on that immediately and give you everything you want. I owe that you to, sir. Yes sir, I will bow very low to you and get on your request immediately.

I am sorry it has taken me too much time. What was I thinking? I'm sorry. Apparantly I didn't acknowledge your importance in my life before. I do now. Sorry.

I'll drop my job and all my responsibilities so that I can get you what you what you need so that you won't insult me further. I'm really sorry for the delay, sir.

Homeyji's mistrust towards mankind that is real

"Why are you choosing to interpret all my words as proof of God or lack of proof?"
Why are you making ambiguous statements using the word proof?

"Stop flattering yourself by giving yourself undue importance. The world does not stop turning because 'rethink' or 'Chaurey' believes or  doesn't believe in God. "
I am simply questioning your ambiguous statements. I don't care to flatter myself. In fact I am giving you undue importance by deeming you capable of being reasonable.

"What makes you think that everything that I am saying that I am proving God or not to you? Why are you giving yourself that much importance that you are interpreting everything I say as somehow giving *you* proof of God or not? "
What makes you think that I think that way? You must place a lot of importance to yourself since you believe that God has singled you out to give you a divine experience. Because of that you have become a little cocky towards other general public.

"We are talking about belief systems. Not about what you personally "rethink" believe. "
This is an open topic of discussion. You don't get to tell others what to talk or think about. Only religious fanatics impose their beliefs and thinkings onto others.

"I care about belief systems. I can't be bothered of what insignificant individuals like you believe or don't believe. Who cares what you believe and why? Why should it matter to me? Who do you think you are?"
Yes in your narcissistic way you believe without a doubt that you are the chosen one. You must be mentally insane to believe that God actually chose you to show his existence. So you believe you are significant and others are not. You don't care what others believe in or feel. It does not matter to you. That is not how a messenger of god should act like. I don't think I am anybody unlike you.

"You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself if you think that everyone in the world needs to prove what they believe and why to you "Rethink" before they can be ok with themselves for believing it. "
Where did you get the idea that I have high opinion of myself? I like to express my opinion and question things that don't make sense. It seems like you think you know everything. So naive you are my friend.

"From where did you develop such arrogance? Are you an authority of any sort? "
Arrogance? You are the epitomy of arrogance. You personify arrogance by your inability to partake in logical discussion. You are not even able to express what you claim was the greatest experience of your life. Obviously, in your inflated head you don't believe we are worthy of your greatness.

"Ha ha ha. You must think that you are God, if you believe that everyone in the world needs to submit proof to you before they can believe what they believe. "
Your last sentence verifies what I was afraid of. When a man loses sanity then he believes that he is a messenger of god or even God himself. I don't care what anyone believes in but personally I would like to believe in something that is credible.

Lastly, you are a charlattan, a confused person, who does not have anything to hope for in life so you want to feel important by creating and imagining hallucinatory stories about your own greatness where you claim God interacted with you.

Try coming back with something more logical and reasonable, than proving you are too stupid to discuss intelligently.

Chaurey and Rethink,

I think I know what you are saying.

When I was living in Texas, I used to regularly go to one restuarant for lunch. There was this blonde waitress that used to serve us. At first we just said hello but as we went there regularly, she wanted to know more about me. After she found out that I was not American she asked me to tell me my story. When did I come to America? What brought me here? Etc.

So I started to tell her my story. My story began in Nepal, of course, since that was where I was born. I asked her if she had heard of Nepal. She said no.
She said, "I just came from Oklohoma to Texas not long ago, I ain't known many places around Texas."

I patiently explained to her that Nepal was not in Texas. That it was a country far away from America. I tried again. I asked her if she had heard of India. I was going to explain to her that Nepal is next to India.
She said, "Nope, ain't heard of Indya."
 So I was finding it very difficult to tell my story at this point. She was a beautiful girl and I wanted her to know how I came to this country and where my parents and all were from. But the fact that she didn't have any background about where in the world Nepal or India was made it very difficult to relay my story to her.
This girl had one of those amazing blushing smiles. So I didn't give up. I asked her if she had heard of Asia.

Her light blue eyes looked confused, she squinted her eyes and looked around the restuarant, "Yeah...yeah, I think I heard of Asia somewhere...sometime. Is that where you're from?"

Well, anyway, least to say, that as much as I wanted to tell my story to this girl, her complete lack of awareness of any place outside of Oklohoma, where she had lived her whole life, made it near to impossible to tell my story to her. There was no way that I could have told her in detail about my story that happened in Chabel, Boudha, Naxal, Ratna Park, etc, if she didn't have the faintest clue where Nepal, India or even Asia was.

So is that my fault that she didn't know anything outside of her little hometown in Oklohoma? Would it be fair to me if she blamed me that I could not tell my life story to her?