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pinpoint
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Posted on 11-08-11 10:40
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When i was a kid (or when i was in Nepal), i used to believe in God. I did however have reservations on religion but i still believed in God. Its been a year in US now and having met people from other cultures, the existence of a supreme being doesnt make sense anymore.
I think that believeing in GOd instills in a person faith, confidence and positivity to get through good times and be appreciative of the bad ones. I want my children to have these qualities so i dont want to tell them that GOd doesnt exist. Moreover, i cant imagine what my parents/relatives will make of me when i talk to them about this. It isnt going to be pretty.
It does give me great discomfort to think about all this. I must admit i feel less confident and more pessimistic these days. I want to believe in God but my logic doesnt give in anymore. In fact, i get irritated when i hear things like "God COMMANDED you to.." "GOd will PUNISH you if..", "We are SERVANTS in from of Him" "(on Christianity): "Jesus died on the cross for you"(THere are many who have made a similar magnitude of sacrifice).
I think that God and religion are ancient theories that havent been discarded yet. And it hasnt due to the fear in people of what might happen if they didnt. One of my teachers once said "if there is no god and you believe in god, there is no harm but if there is god and you dont believe in god, there is harm". i feel this and cultural and social stigmas lead people to be religious and not question their beliefs.
I wanna know what you guys make of this.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:08
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@babal khatey [lol/ yawns /ignored]
@chaurey, that's what I've been trying to make them understand, go and start the new thread. lol. NO, they simply don't get it. One way traffic mindset like those argumentative cocky political leaders :D
And, chaurey, you claim yourself to be an atheist,such an oxymoron, ends your sentence with 'for christ sakes'.
Just try to be yourself, who you are okay.. ..
I'm done with you guys.
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man ko kuro
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:11
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Oh my Darwin!, someone doesn't even get the joke!
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:12
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I have always respected Geology Tiger's writing. Ok sir, since you have spoken. I will stop.
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:14
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lol euta joker ko kami thiyo, tyo pani pura bho..
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:19
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BitterTruth,
Homeyji is the joker, not me.
Since you're so damned smart. Obviously smarter than most of us here in sajha.....Why don't you explain something to me: why do you believe in science?
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:29
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@bittertruth: jeee man did i end my sentence with "christ sakes" in double quotation? "oh my god" what heresy is this?
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NayaNepaliBabu
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:37
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The question should not be about believing or not believing in science. Science is merely the study of our world and universe. It is the best guess human beings make about how our world works. Every claims we make about the universe must be tested. Is there god or not is an important question.
Also, another important thing we have looked for god a lot and have found no evidence of it's existence. furthermore, it the responsibility of the person making the positive claim to prove the claim. (burden of proof lies on the person making the positive claim.) So, people whole think god exists needs to show us, skeptics where is this thing called god.
I may claim unicorns exists. Can you prove me wrong ? I also may claim there is flying spaghetti monster ? Is it your responsibility to prove I am wrong or is it my responsibility to show these creatures do actually exist. (BTW these are classical examples)
(Personally, if you think you life is better by having a imaginary friend then go ahead. ) Just don't make false claim and talk illogical.
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:40
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Agreed 100% with NayaNepalibabu
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 11:45
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Bitter Truth,
You wrote in a post above:
Why am I having this weird feeling that I'm exchanging words with teenagers with little understanding about the language, life and philosophy?
Yes, BitterTruth, I am a little little baby. I am crying "Waah, waah." And you are a grown man. You are the greatest scientist and philosopher. So why have you shut up? Come and discuss, you coward!
Answer the question:
What is the basis of your belief in science?
And for those who are too damned ignorant to know that the above is a valid question, please, take the time to educate your minds:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science
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Geology Tiger
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:29
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And babal khate we do need to discuss more on those topics you and homeyji have raised. This thread can not lead us to the single conclusion on existence or non existence of god. This is more like public poll. We have our own belief or disbelief regarding the existence of god and no one is going to change his/her mind even you put strong arguments. It takes significant amount of time and confrontation with different situations to change one's mind. So better start discussing on those important issues on different threads. I will definitely participate on those.
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:33
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Why do I need to bring up these topics in a thread, Geology Tiger? Are you not a Nepali? Why have you not brought up these topics before? Do these issues not concern you?
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:34
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@ chaurey lol :D you are such a hypocrit.
@ nayanepalibabu, your logics thrown at are hilarious. I would assume if someone claims all those things you've listed and dares to prove him/her wrong?? Yeah, I can prove him/her wrong:
Solution: Stop smoking POT. chapter close !!! ;D
@babal khatey : that joker thing wasn't for you. That was for someone else.
ummm' what is the basis of my belief in science?"...
lemme tell you something, science is in you. just look at you, you are a jumbo mass of atom,neutron,protron and electron. What other proofs do you need than this? I'm not angry with you or humiliating you.. Just having a discussion, nothing much. You don't need to get hyper, son :D
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:37
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Dear Father Bitter Truth,
Daddy, religion is also in you. Just look inside you, Papa. Is that answer satisfactory to you?
Ladies and gentleman, the greatest philosopher and scientist of the world...and this is the best answer that he can give. Taliya...taliya!
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:37
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babal khatey, I don't think I'm a smart one, because smartness is extremely relative term. Hope you get that or I'll translate it in Nepali if you don't understand, just ask me ? no pun intended
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:47
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lol, that was not what I meant when I wrote 'son', you really to take 'ESL"
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bittertruth
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:48
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thank you for entertaining me.. keep going :D
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:55
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BitterTruth,
This thread is about 'Philosophy and the basis of Truth'. Would love to see more on it, than you yapping out on about 'son' and 'ESL' crap because you can't come up with rational answers. would appreciate if you would start you blah blah biah in new thread.
I never understand, why ppl talk unrelated stuff in threads. I'm an admin to other forums, I move them to new thread without a question.
BitterTruth, maybe you should move your @ss to another thread, since you can't come up with a rational answer to back up your stance.
Geology Tiger, why don't you tell this parasite to focus on the topic at hand.
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-17-11 12:59
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somebody pass me the pop corn...dumb and dumber is on!!
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BABAL Khate
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Posted on 11-17-11 1:02
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Chaurey,
We appear so dumb because you haven't educated us with your smart answer. I'm still waiting for it.
I can understand why BitterTruth can't come up with the answer. His Truth tastes very shitty--that is why it's so bitter. Didn't you understand that when he said that the truth is deep in his gut?
But what's your excuse?
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chaurey
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Posted on 11-17-11 1:07
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can you repeat the repeat the question again? again?
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