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Amazing
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Posted on 02-24-08 3:11
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Very funny yet realistic REMIX song on Nepal and Nepali filthy politicians
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Nepe
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Posted on 02-24-08 4:09
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अरु कुरा त ठीकै छ, तर the notion that Nepal was a peaceful paradise in the past and now there is a trouble in the paradise is a naïve notion at best.
For example, the problem in Terai is actually due to the peaceful paradise of the past that ignored their equal share in power and denied dignity to Madhesis.
And this one too is very important. The freaking ignorant and arrogant Pahadi youth who always looked down upon Madhesis and hurt and played with the dignity in Pahadi cities and towns (not in villages; villagers were always respectful to Madhesi teachers, health workers, veterinarians or anybody reached to them) are also responsible for the trouble.
Same with the Maoist war.The innocence and denial of the lost paradise is at it’s source.
So, I would say, don’t blame the present and the leaders alone. The past and our ignorant youth are equally responsible. We must be mindful of that too.
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Posted on 02-24-08 4:50
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Nepe bro, I agree with you in some points, yes the present Madhesi unrest is outcome of long and silent discrimination, its true that when people are silent and not justified they can explore anytime and, mind you, that could be very dangerous. If not today it would have happened tomorrow, so lets hope, we will find some means to solve it. Earlier the better. However, I personally think it may take long to change radically. Exactly, we cant blame only political leaders for present political chaos, our past and youth are equally responsible too. Still, in my opinion those leaders (of course including King) are primarily responsible for dragging the country in this situation. One point, to run country one needs visions. Most of the leaders (almost all) are VISIONLESS in Nepal. I wonder what and how they face foreign delegates. There are boundless opportunities in Nepal. Once Pritihvi Narayan Shah quoted ''Nepal Dui Dhunga bich ko tarul'' now it could be blessing in disguise.if we could utiliese in right way, we could benefit more than what we need. we r between two NEW TIGERS of the world, here lets not only complain about BIG BAD BROTHERS. I think Ive overwritten here, let me take a break. Will surely comeback for discussion. I am also that kind of guy who always worries about country but not contributed much.
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Posted on 02-24-08 6:05
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झिल्के,
सहि कुरा ।
अनि हाम्रा नेताका योग्यताको त के कुरा गराई भो र ?
तर पनि गतिला नेता भन्ने कुरा तिनीहरुलाई भरमार तर असंगठीत गाली गरेर वा चुपचाप भगवानसंग प्रार्थना गरेर आउने कुरा होईनन् । संगठीत गाली (activism) गर्नुपर्छ, अनि आउँछ ।
एउटा anecdote सुनाउँछु । केही महिना अघि म काठमाडौंको एउटा पत्रिकापसलमा थिएँ । त्यहाँ केही युवाहरु गरमागरम गाली गर्दै थिए गिरिजाप्रसादलाई, उनको एउटा विवादास्पद वक्तव्यको सिलसिलामा तर उनको यावत कमजोरीहरु उधिनी उधिनी ।
एक युवाले ठोकेरै भने सब समस्याको जड गिरिजै हो । मैले माफी र बहसमा भाग लिने अनुमति एकैचोटी माग्दै भने, “माफ गर्नु होला, तर मेरो धृष्टता सुनाउने अनुमति दिनुहुन्छ भने, मेरो विचारमा त समस्याको जड तपाई हामी पो हौं त । के हामीले कहिले गिरिजाको विकल्प खोज्यौं ? सुझायौं ? लड्यौं ? अर्थोक केही गर्न नसके पनि केही युवाहरु मिलेर गिरिजाको विकल्प चाहियो भनेर अनसन बस्न त सकिन्थ्यो होला नि । खोई कोही बस्यो ? बस्नुहुन्छ तपाईहरु ?”
केटाहरु चुप । एकजना ज्ञानीले चाही भन्यो, “ठीक भन्नु भो दाई, मैले त त्यतापट्टि कहिले सोचिनँ ।“
अनि म पनि एउटा ठूलै काम गर्या जस्तो सन्तुष्टि बोकेर घरतिर लागें ।
कुरा त्यसो छ ।
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Posted on 02-24-08 6:15
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nice video... somebody has to STAND UP AND RISE
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MN_Nepali
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Posted on 02-24-08 10:51
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Great work...
Well I m pissed cause you abused the dogs soooo bad.
they(dogs) deserve better man.
hahahha
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Posted on 02-24-08 10:53
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May be try cancer cells next time to compare those thugs.
Paracites
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Posted on 02-25-08 2:59
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Nepe,
your reasoning for peaceful period is irrevalent whether it was a mere coincidence, cleverness,oppression or only few genuine terai people had citizenship. If cuba gets credit for their wow health care system let the due be paid. Otherwise every present is result of past isn't it ? some go for panchayat era, some 238 years, i'm not satisfied till i go for Ramrajya period. ha ha but seriously. Truth is simple, reasoning is cumbersome thats all I meant to say.
By the way, about present madeshi problem, have you wondered why SPA went for distribution of citizenship in rush ( and requiring only three people to swear it) right after Janandolan 2 ? Was it the part of 12 point delhi agreement ? It's easy to cry discrimination ( I agree to some point) but much of the problem lies selling the soul by politicians to gain more votes after 2046 in the name of citizenship.
राज्य नै राज्यविरुद्ध |
:: अनौपचारिक
| - फणिन्द्र नेपाल | सन् १९७० को दशकमै एउटा आमसभालाई सम्वोधन गर्दै इन्दिरा गान्धीले 'नेपालको तराइमा बस्ने जनता भारतीय मूलका हुन् र तिनीहरु कूल नेपाली जनसंख्याको ४० प्रतिशत छन् । यदि आवश्यक पर्यो भने सो ४० प्रतिशतको संख्यामा रहेका भारतीय मुलका जनतालाई भारत सरकारले परिचालन गर्नुपर्ने स्थिति आउनेछ' भनेको कुरा र सन् १९७४ मा सिक्किमलाई छल र बल प्रयोग गरी भारतमा विलय गरिएपछि तत्कालीन भारतीय प्रधानमन्त्री तिनै इन्दिरा गान्धीले 'हामी नेपाललाई बन्दुकको गोलीबाट होइन मतपत्रबाट लिनेछौं' भनेको कुरा परस्पर अन्योन्याश्रति रहेको नेपालको तराइमा विकसित घटनाक्रमबाट चरितार्थ भएको छ ।
स्मरणीय के छ भने भारतको विदेश मन्त्रालयको एक तथ्यांकअनुसार सन् १९८० सम्ममा नेपालमा बसोबास गर्ने ३० लाख भारतीयमध्ये २३ लाख ८७ हजार ९७३ जनाले नागरिकता लिइसकेका थिए भने त्यसयताका २७ वर्षमा यो संख्या कम्तीमा दोब्बर भएको हुनुपर्छ । यी दुवै कुराको पृष्ठभूमिमा नेपालले अपनाउनुपर्ने सजगताको मात्रा तय गर्नु अत्यन्त जरुरी भएको छ ।
भारत नेपालमा प्रवेश गरी पैसाको बलमा कानुनी रुपमै नागरिकता लिन सफल भारतीय आप्रवासीलाई परिचालन गरी नेपालको सार्वभौमसत्तामाथि प्रहार गर्ने दाउमा रहेको कुरा अब घामजत्तिकै र्छलङ्ग भइसकेको छ । यदि कुनै नेपाली नेता वा उसका कुनै पनि कार्यकर्तामा वास्तवमा भारत नेपालको असल छिमेकी हो भन्ने भ्रम छ भने या त ऊ र अको सञ्चालनमा परिसकेको छ या त ऊ स्वदेशको सिता खाएर विदेशको गीता पाठ गर्ने राष्ट्रघाती हो ।
यी दुवैथरी राष्ट्रघातीबाट राष्ट्रलाई ठूलो घाटा भइरहेको छ । पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले राष्ट्रघातीको त जिउधन लिए पनि केही फरक पर्दैन भनेका थिए तर नेपालमा उल्टो गंगा बग्छ, त्यसैले यहाँ राष्ट्रघाती नै अब्बल दर्जाको नेता कहलाइन्छ ।
एउटै पहिरन र छालाको रङमा रैथाने र आप्रवासी गरी दुइ किसिमका मानिसहरु तराइमा बसेका हुँदा नेपालको राष्ट्रवादी आन्दोलनका सूचना र गोप्यताहरु लैनचौर हुँदै छिनभरमै दिल्ली पुग्ने गर्छन् । त्यसैले अनाहकमा भारतीय आप्रवासीका अपराधको दोष रैथाने तराइवासीले.पनि बोक्नुपर्छ, उनीहरु आशंका र संशयको घेरामा पर्नुपर्छ । यस विषम परिस्थितिबाट मुक्ति पाउन तराइका रैथानेहरुले तराईलाई भारतीय आप्रवासीको प्रकोप र प्रदुषणबाट मुक्त राख्न तत्काल तराईमुक्ति अभियान वा तराई शुद्धीकरण अभियान सञ्चालन गर्नुपर्छ । जबसम्म मधेसमा घुसेका भारतीयलाई चामलबाट ढुंङ्गा फ्याँकेझैं गर्न सकिन्न, नेपाली तराई भारतीय आप्रवासीको नेतृत्वको पकडामा रहिरहनेछ र त्यस्तो परिस्थिति रहुन्जेल मधेसमा शान्ति र साम्प्रदायिक सद्भावको कुरा गर्नु निरर्थक हुनेछ ।
तराइका मधेसीमध्ये को आदिवासी हुन्, को भारतीय आप्रवासी हुन् र को आन्तरिक बसाइँ-सराइका क्रममा त्यहाँ बसोबास गर्न पुगेका पहाडे हुन्- यिनको पहिचान गर्ने हो भने मधेसलाई अखडा बनाई रजाइँ गरिहेको भारतीय आप्रवासीको लस्करको तस्वीर स्पष्टै देख्न सकिनेछ । तिनको पहिचान हुनासाथ न्यायिक प्रक्रियाद्वारा तिनले प्राप्त गरेको नागरिकता बेलामै रद्द गर्ने निर्णय गर्नु बुद्धिमानी हुनेछ । त्यसपछि मात्र मधेसको मुद्दामाथि राज्यबाट खास सम्बोधन हुनुपर्छ, नत्र मधेसको मुद्दामाथि राज्यबाट खास सम्वोधन हुनुपर्छ, नत्र मधेसको शासनमात्र होइन त्यहाँको सार्वभौमसत्ता समेत थप संकटमा पर्नेछ ।
त्यसकारण यस्तो अनियन्त्रित आप्रवासनबाट निस्कने भयावह नजिताबाट पाठ सिकेर तर्राईमा राज्यले वितरण गरेका वंशजदेखि बाहेकका सबै नागरिकतालाई संशयको घेरामा राख्नैपर्छ । होइन भनेर् इस्वी सम्वतको पाँचौं शताब्दीमा आप्रवासीका रुपमा ब्रिटेन छिरेका आंग्ल जातिका मानिसहरु ब्रिटन भनिने त्यहाँको मूल जातिभदा आठ/दश गुना बढी पुग्नेवित्तिकै त्यही ब्रिटेन इङ्गल्यान्ड(आंग्लभूमि) बनेझैं वास्तविक र मूल नेपालीको पहिचान लोप भई भोलि नेपाल नाम मात्रका नेपालीहरुको (यथार्थमा भारतीय आप्रवासीहरुको) देशका रुपमा परिवर्तन हुनेछ । देशको रुपान्तरणको यो विश्व इतिहासबाट पाठ नसिक्ने हो भने नेपालबाट नेपालीको परिचय मासिने कुरा निश्चित छ तर जुन राज्यमा राज्य नै राज्यविरुद्ध छ त्यो राज्यको स्वाधीनता सानोतिनो प्रयासले जोगिन सक्तैन ।
त्यसैले इतिहासमा नेपाली वीरताको प्रतीक मानिएको खुकुरीमा साँध लगाउनेदेखि दक्षिणमा ढुङ्गाको पर्खाल लगाउनेसम्मका उपायबारे हामीले सोच्नैपर्छ । हामी जिउँदै छौं कि मरिसक्यौं-एकपट आफले आफैंलाई घोचेर हेर्नैपर्छ । तर यो काम बेलैमा सम्पन्न गर्नुपर्छ । घरमा आगो लागेर खरानी भइसकेपछि आँगनमै कुवा खने पनि त्यसको के काम ? (लेखक पाटन बहुमुखी क्याम्पसका प्राध्यापक तथा United Nepal National Front का Chairman हुनुहुन्छ ।) |
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Posted on 02-25-08 6:21
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यो भिडियोले बास्तबिकता देखाएको छ।
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Posted on 02-25-08 7:14
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So true video...... Good work Amazing!! nepal haru ko email address chha bhane baru link pathaidiu na!! laaj le alikati sudhrinthe ki??
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Nepe
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Posted on 02-25-08 10:09
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Mr. Truth,
Reasoning is cumbersome. Agreed. However, that’s the only thing we have in order to get to the heart of the matter.
That said, I agree that we should be reasonable enough to see how we all, both the rulers and the subjects, have been victims of history (you used the word “co-incidenceâ€).
When we judge history, we should judge based on the value prevailing at the time, not based on the value evolved at present time (not “ex post factoâ€).
For this reason, there is no point convicting the rulers of pre-democracy era (say Jung Bahadur or Prithvi Narayan). I was not talking about them when I talked about the paradise. I was taking about the post-democracy era (post B.S. 2007 in general, post B.S. 2047 specifically) where liberty and equity were supposed to be the prevailing values.
This should be open for judgment.
You brought up an interesting issue of citizenship distribution. There is no doubt that Nepal now has the most liberal citizenship policy perhaps in the entire world. Anybody residing in Nepal in 1990 or before can get Nepali citizenship. No kidding.
It’s true that this rather extremely liberal policy was brought by SPA leaders in a hurry or rather in panic due to Madhesi agitation in Terai. But I am proud rather than scared of it.
And if anybody is in impression that only the people living in Terai (very recent migrants from India included) benefited from this policy, here is the data to show it otherwise. Out of two lakhs citizenship distributed since the policy came out, only 46% were distributed in Terai and the rest were distributed in Pahad.
Total citizenship distributed: 2,250,869
Citizenship distributed in Terai: 1,055,869 (46%)
Citizenship distributed in Pahad: 1,19,5000 (54%)
In fact some Madhesi take this as a deception to them. Here is one such theory.
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2008/others/guestcolumn/jan/guest_columns_08.php
To make things short, there indeed are a lot of unreasonable skepticism, cynicism and even “foreign activism†in Terai. However, we must not deny that it’s making of the continued exclusion of Madhesis in the state in the post-democracy era as unexpected.
Jana Andola II and the reforms thereafter including Madhesi movement and reforms quickened thereafter have changed all that. However, our leaders have not been able to present those cases as strongly as they deserve to Madhesi people. Here I blame them.
Nepe
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Posted on 02-25-08 10:30
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Nepe States,"the notion that Nepal was a peaceful paradise in the past and now there is a trouble in the paradise is a naïve notion at best."
Well now Mr Expert compare to what we have now it sure was peaceful--> FACT not a notion. he he
For example, the problem in Terai is actually due to the peaceful paradise of the past that ignored their equal share in power and denied dignity to Madhesis.
Well Senor expert they were not the only ones that were ignored. There are Newars(aka Jyapus), Sherpas(Bhoteys)[the whole chatish barna] ... etc. etc. too whose dignities were also ignored. So what you plan to do give them a sovreign nation or state too? If you keep doing that then Nepal as a nation will cease to exist. Its obvios MR FUTURE POLITICIAN IS INTERESTED IN ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY(mentioned at the end of his sentence) WHICH GIVES US A LIL REFLECTION OF NEPE'S PANDORA BOX. Good luck in your future Kursii....he he !!
Nepe,"And this one too is very important. The freaking ignorant and arrogant Pahadi youth who always looked down upon Madhesis and hurt and played with the dignity in Pahadi cities and towns (not in villages; villagers were always respectful to Madhesi teachers, health workers, veterinarians or anybody reached to them) are also responsible for the trouble."
Again the root of the cause is a lot deeper than that Mr Wanna Be Politician Nepe(You are right we are at fault). Did you ever question yourself why we behave that way ? Why are Nepali folks hostile to people of Indian decent ? Think !!! There you got your answer.
Same with the Maoist war.The innocence and denial of the lost paradise is at it’s source.
The Innocence and denial of the lost paradise is the root of this problem ? ha ha ha YOU ARE TALKING LIKE BIN LADDEN HA HA HA Yeah and there will 40 virgins for every Madhesi awaiting at the gates of this Paradise too ? ha ha ha ENOUGH WITH THIS ASSTALK !!!
So, I would say, don’t blame the present and the leaders alone. The past and our ignorant youth are equally responsible. We must be mindful of that too.
FACT--> ARE THE GENERAL LIVES OF NEPALI PEOPLE BETTER TODAY THAN 10-15 YRS AGO ? NOPE.
SO EVERYONE WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME WHICH IS THE ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE LAZY ASS KING IS RESPONSIBLE( including YOU and YOUR LAME ASS REPUBLIC MOVEMENT which left the Nepali people dry after leading them on with false promises).
DO NOT SOME HERE PREACHING WHEN PEOPLE IN NEPAL DO NOT HAVE THE BASIC NECESSITIES TO SUSTAIN BASIC LIFE.
Haal auta mula ko 25 rupya rey, 1kg rice is 90 rupya rey. AND NEPE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE LOST PARADISE. BADAA AYOO JANNEY !!!! You really think we are that STUPID NEPE ?
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यहाँ निर मलाई आश्चर्य लागेको कुरा के हो भने मधिशेलाई कुन क्षेत्रमा उपेक्षा गरिएको छ भन्ने कुरा। पहाड को तुलना गरौं भने मधेश त कता हो कता सुबिधा सम्पन्न छ। खालि बिहारीलाई मर्स्या , भैया भनी छुद्रवाचक संबोधनले सच्चा मधिशेको मुटु किन पोल्छ, कहिं उनको बन्धकी राखेको आत्म बोल्छ कि त्यसमा? समबेशी को अर्थ बराबर् अबसर् हुन सक्छ, आरक्षण होइन। बिकासको समानुपातिक बितरण हुनु पर्छ। त्यो छंदै छ। स्वास्थ, शिक्षा यातायातमा मधेशको सुगमता जग जाहेर छ। अब कुरा आउछ, प्रशासनमा मधिशे भएन, उच्चश्रेणीमा मधिशे भेन भन्ने कुरा मिथ्या हुन्। हुम्ला जुम्ला सम्मका बिज्ञान र गणितका मार्साबहरु किन यादब, सिंह र कर्ण मात्र हुन्छन्। नेपाली पढाउने प्राय ब्राम्हण भए जस्तै मात्र पनि होइन। जहाँ नगद त्यहाँ यादब् हो। अमिन, सर्भेयर र ओभरसियर साहेबहरु किन मधिशे मात्र हुन्छन्। अरुले पढ्न नसकेर त पक्कै होइनन्। सिचाई बिभाग र सडक बिभागका आधा जति इन्जिनियर साहेबहरु किन तराई मूलका हुन्छन्। यी यक्ष प्रश्नहरुको उत्तर खोज्नै पर्ने भएको छ। धन संग मात्र मन भए पछि प्रशासन् तिनको रोजाईको बिषय थिएन र छैन पनि। अनि जहाँ जहाँ मधिशे छैनन्, त्यता तिर्को तथ्यांक देखाएर बखेडा झिक्ने काम भएको छ। हेल्थ असिस्टेन्ट् अनि ल्याब टेक्निसियनमा अधिकांश मधिसे हुनु पनि संयोग मान्नु मिल्दैन होला। अर्को मनन् योग्य कुरा, हामीले आई एस्सी पढ्ने ताका, पुल्चोक क्याम्पसमा पढ्ने ७० देखि ९० प्रतिशत सम्म तराई मूलका हुन्थे। पछि संभवत २०४४ पछि प्रबेश परिक्षा को थालनी भए पछि तराई मूलको संख्या सीमित भएर १०-२०% मात्र रहन गए। यस वास्तबिकताले पनि धेरै कुराको असली मनसाय छरलङ् हुने छ। अझै हामी समाबेशी र उपेक्षाको नाममा गलत सूचना र मनसायको शिकार भैराख्या छौ जस्तो छ।
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Nepe,"Jana Andola II and the reforms thereafter including Madhesi movement and reforms quickened thereafter have changed all that. However, our leaders have not been able to present those cases as strongly as they deserve to Madhesi people. Here I blame them." NEPE I BLAME YOU AND YOUR LAME ASS REPUBLIC MOVEMENT FOR LEAVING THE POOR NEPALI JANATA OU TO DRY AFTER LEADING THEM ON WITH THE FALSE PROMISE OF A BETTER NEPAL IN JANA ANDOLAN II. PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN FEAR EVERYDAY AND YET YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COME OVER HERE AND TALK OUTTA YO ASS ? he he You and your high ideals don't mean shit to people who followed your so called REPUBLIC MOVEMENT in hopes of a better future. BEFORE YOU START POINTING FINGERS, TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR. he he
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Bathroom,
Debate aside, I must say I noticed a softening in your attitude and a little bit of style too compared to how you used to present yourself in the past. I do not see your favorite adjectives (moron, gadha, son-of-a-bitch) and your omnipotent argument (Hahahaha) anymore or much. I hope these are your genuine growing up and they have nothing to do with the fact that you might know that now some of us know your real identity, Mr. S. R from Boston (just to prove that I know who you are and I am not going to reveal it unless you revert back to your old nasty self).
Now as for your arguments, it must be acknowledged that this Terai unrest and a few other scattered secessionist extremism have taken everybody (ok only the republicans) by surprise.
I must also admit that I am still trying to fully understand what’s going on. A straightforward logic should tell that the change as big as one Jan Andolan II brought (opening up the state for almost open-ended restructuring ) must make all the excluded/marginalized groups happy, optimistic and participating in the process. That’s only partially happening or not happening at all.
It almost feels like the republicans have lost the argument to the monarchist/royalists who were saying the King is the uniting force. But I am sure that is not the case. King does not look like a uniting force at all, if you were suggesting that too.
I am sure the current chaos is partly normal transitional chaos and partly the failure of SPAM leaders in managing it with the vigilance, sensitivity (less self-indulgence) and efficiency it required.
I know SPAM is not going to change much. However, whatsoever they are forced to do would be enough to bring things in track.
For few years, when major debate is going on about the restructuring of the state, chaos is to be expected. There is no smooth way, there is no going back, there is no alternative.
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Nepe,"Debate aside, I must say I noticed a softening in your attitude and a little bit of style too compared to how you used to present yourself in the past. I do not see your favorite adjectives (moron, gadha, son-of-a-bitch) and your omnipotent argument (Hahahaha) anymore or much. I hope these are your genuine growing up and they have nothing to do with the fact that you might know that now some of us know your real identity, Mr. S. R from Boston (just to prove that I know who you are and I am not going to reveal it unless you revert back to your old nasty self)." Ha ha ha Listen to this guy !!!! This must be a Joke. Yeah I cuss and swear(who doesn't?) but thats besides the point. Difference between you and me is that I say what I want to say(Cause I have nothing to lose). Whether you or anybody else likes me or not I really don't care....he he Whereas you cannot because you are trying to gain support using this SAJHA vehicle for your budding future political career therefore to be electible you have to kiss ass and make nice to members of sajha. NOW HE CLAIMS HE KNOWS ME. ha ha ha SO ? What's your point ? UNLESS YOU ARE THREATENING ME(to reveal my identity). Ohhhh IT IS A TREAT. IS THAT HOW MR I HAVE HIGH IDEALS... RUNS HIS OPERATIONS ? WITH THREATS ? ha ha ha This really really tempts me to tsk tsk revert myself to one of my DUS AVATARS. ha ha ha I DON"T GIVE A FUG NEPE. YOUR FUGGING MENTALITY IS NO BETTER THAN THOSE SONS OF BITCHES RUNNING THE COUNTRY. SO there goes your fugging pedestal MORON. Nepe,"Now as for your arguments, it must be acknowledged that this Terai unrest and a few other scattered secessionist extremism have taken everybody (ok only the republicans) by surprise." Ummm Duh !!! Are you playing naive or really that dumb ? Or was it that you saw your KURSII at the end of the tunnell and didn't give a shit. he he Nepe,"I must also admit that I am still trying to fully understand what’s going on. A straightforward logic should tell that the change as big as one Jan Andolan II brought (opening up the state for almost open-ended restructuring ) must make all the excluded/marginalized groups happy, optimistic and participating in the process. That’s only partially happening or not happening at all." So you admit delivering the bheda Nepali janata from the Royalist Vultures to the Commie Vultures huh(guilty as charged) ? he he Nepe,"I am sure the current chaos is partly normal transitional chaos and partly the failure of SPAM leaders in managing it with the vigilance, sensitivity (less self-indulgence) and efficiency it required." Its easy for you to say. Say that to the person who waited 12 hours to het Petrol and came home empty handed, Say that to a Bhariya who is trying to make ends meet, or the taxi driver trying to get gas, or the factory trying to run its daily business(without electricity). Nepe,"It almost feels like the republicans have lost the argument to the monarchist/royalists who were saying the King is the uniting force. But I am sure that is not the case. King does not look like a uniting force at all, if you were suggesting that too." ha ha ha And who is to Blame for that NEPE ? Nobody but You and your Republic buddies.
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I agree that the seeds of today's discontent were sowed a long time ago during the Panchayat and even before that. But I also feel the mainstream political parties have done poorly when it comes to addressing the problems supposedly created by the Panchayat. The Panchayat was in denial of Nepal's diversity and therefore could flat out deny such issues even existed back then. The NC, UML and Maoists on the other hand have accepted and embraced that diversity (which is good) but because of their mismanagement, mis -governance and failure to understand the shifting fault lines of politics, they have proved themselves incapable of running such a diverse country. The current crop of leaders - GPK,MKN, PKD and GBBS included - have all proved ineffective when it comes to governance. I wont be surprised if there is a military coup one of these days. Sadly new leadership wont come out of the parties or the palace anytime soon which leaves either the Army or "foreign powers" to step in and fill the leadership vacuum. I think such a coup will be bad for the country in the long run but with each passing day the chances of it happening are growing. Just my thoughts.
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I haven't figured out is why sajha policy does not apply to few people here. Sajha touts fairness and respect for individuals yet the admin does not do anything about few people who tries to force their ideas on others by using foul and offensive language. These few posters write offensively calling names like moron, fugger, which is a clearly not a respectful discussion. I enjoy discussions in sajha whether I agree or disagree with others but when such people are being offensive it destroys the good image that sajha has as a fair and free discussion site.
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Captain Haddock,
Manuj Chaudhary (a pseudo name of some journalist) had an article in some publication of Kantipur some time ago in which he was sharing views very similar to yours (No, I am not suspecting you ;-) )
I had a small discussion with a friend on that and I had shared my quite opposite view that there is no room for any kind of dictatorship in Nepal for next several years.
Here are excerpts from that conversation.
“Manuj Chaudhary has an interesting reading and speculation. However, I think there is a zero chance for any dictatorship to emerge immediately or in a foreseeable future. The simple reason is that, there is no power/force/group/party in Nepal that has not been tested and not failed to disappoint people already. So a forceful grabbing of power by any existing power in Nepal is impossible (to happen and sustain).
If a new power unknown before appeared in Nepal somehow, could impress the people with it's vision and/or some introductory activities and dared to grab the power somehow, then there would be a chance, although still a slim one due to various other factors, for a dictatorship or whatever it would like to, emerge in Nepal.
Meaning, the dictatorship first then good works (dictatorship --> good works) path is impossible in Nepal.
Good works first, then dictatorship (good works --> dictatorship) is possible.
Not only possible, it is inevitable. Anybody who can demonstrate some good work will not just be supported but will be worshipped. A sure way to lead to one or the other kind of authoritarian rule, if not dictatorship.
Putting all together, the only possible route to a dictatorship in Nepal is to get to power first through a legitimate means (election or common agreement) and do some good works to impress the people.
In another words, that is not going to happen for next few years or until perhaps second election.â€
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>Ohhhh IT IS A TREAT. IS THAT HOW MR I HAVE
>HIGH IDEALS... RUNS HIS OPERATIONS ? WITH
>THREATS ? ha ha ha
Bathroom,
So you want me not to reveal your identity out of high ideals ? Alright.
But if it helped to make you a bit more civil to all Sajha posters, I wouldn’t mind to throw away this particular high ideal.
Nepe
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