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 About some Nep Trumpers

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Posted on 11-16-20 5:51 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Never thought of writing this thread here as I thought the election was over on 3rd but met couple of Trump supporters over the weekend and got to know why they support Trump and voted for him:
First guy: entered US iligally from mexico traveling more than 13 countries, filed asylum, got GC and became citizen 4 years back. Reasons to support Trump is he is doing great job on everything including iligal migration.
Second guy: came US in student visa, left school, filed asylum, got GC and then citizenship. Reasons to vote Trump is (in his own words) "धोती र नेपाली अति नै धेरै भए। नेपाल मा नि भ्याल्यु घट्यो अब त अमेरिका बस्छु भन्दा"
3rd guy: migrated with his DV. He got his own brother's family and जेठान को family here with DV too.
Heard that he called his younger brother faking a marriage (१ जना डिभी परेकि लाइ पैसा तिरेर फेक विहे गरेर छिरेको) but I don't have any proofs. Reason: ट्रम्प ले हुन लागेको वार रोक्यो उत्तर कोरिया सग। चाइनिज ले अमेरिका लाइ टेक वोभर गरिसकेको थियो,ठिक ठाउँमा ल्यायो। मनको एकदमै सफा लाग्छ ट्रम्प
4th: entered in student visa, followed regular students path like h1b gc. Civil engineer, pay was far less than what IT wala make it. Started IT job after receiving GC. Reason to vote Trump: "साला धोती हरुले पुरै खाए IT. वोबामा ले सबै बिगारेर हो। पहिले यतिको चै थिएन। आजकाल हल्का ठिक हुँदै छ फेरि उही बनाउछ वाइडेन ले. स्टक नि बबाल भयो। ट्रम्प आइकन मैंले स्टक सुरु गरेको,२०-२२ हजार प्रोफिट भइसक्यो। जे होस् वाइडेन भन्दा चै राम्रो गर्छ"
There were other two folks who voted Biden and their main reason was the racisms after Trump got elected in 2016.

When I told them that I will post this on sajha, one guy said people who supports Biden in sajha are either students or visa holders working illegally

 
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Posted on 11-19-20 9:08 AM     [Snapshot: 1462]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"Trump stands for a single person who is arrogant and proud and not very smart but is a good businessman."

I could not agree as I read "Good businessman". He was and is a snake oil seller. He saved money not paying Creditors.
A fool, fooled many. He will be doing it rest of his life because American you are/were so gullible. and He owned you.

 
Posted on 11-19-20 9:13 AM     [Snapshot: 1478]     Reply [Subscribe]
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He is a good businessman as in he knows how to make money for himself. Businessmen can be snake oil seller. They know how to save money. They know how to use the tax system to save money for themselves.

How did that fool me? How am I gullible? I know what he is who he is. But do you know the democratic party?
 
Posted on 11-19-20 9:18 AM     [Snapshot: 1472]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@Polisci: You brought up really good points here. I see many folks here blinded by hate towards Trump so much that they don’t even question who they are supporting. I see people belittling Trump Supporters as if they are saints for supporting Biden and have fulfilled their sacred duty by voting for Biden.

@ Sajha Keto: Not pointing fingers at you brother but what does their background have to do with whom they can support or what their political beliefs should be like? Can we hear from you, why you support Biden ?
I was a student myself and worked my way up to have a stable career here in US. But when I look back, I feel like I also lied to US government because I said I was going to go back to Nepal after I finish my school. But here I’m, enjoying the greatness and freedom of this beautiful country. So, please stop being judgmental about the people’s beliefs no matter how they got here or how they got their US residency.
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Posted on 11-19-20 10:56 AM     [Snapshot: 1534]     Reply [Subscribe]
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kahilo brother,
I know people wont have time to go by each thread in sajha and read it to find out what's their views on each of the topics. So, not blaming you on that. I had asked folks in sajha why would they prefer Trump vs Biden as I was also kind of undecided voter at some point. I got mixed views from them. Obviously, I did not want to decide based on the news in different media. I also have some friends living in North Dakota and West Virginia and South Dakota, got to know abut their experiences after Trump got elected in 2016. I followed different leftist vs rightist groups in reddit. The main reason was racism(obviously so many other factors as well not just based on CNN) that I and many of my friends felt after 2016. If you live in diverse community, you would not see it. Giving you the details as I felt you were interested to know.

Not sure how you found me being judgmental when I shared our conversation on why folks supported Biden vs Trump with their consent. The reason to give details of Trump supporters is the way they think not the way they supported Trump. What kind of bullshit is that "धोती र नेपाली अति नै धेरै भए। नेपाल मा नि भ्याल्यु घट्यो अब त अमेरिका बस्छु भन्दा". You could have many other reasons to like/vote Trump but how can you be so hypocrite on fellow Nepali or others while you came here illegally?What's their problem if other come here illegally while they themselves came that way?
So, I think you should STOP being judgmental just reading the headline of the thread brother. Stay safe and stay healthy

 
Posted on 11-19-20 12:13 PM     [Snapshot: 1573]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@nepalikahilo..you are absolutely right about background stuff. You say people belittling Trump but have you not heard Trump belittling womens, shit hole countries, rapist mexicans, gay and lesbians, students, dvlottery, asylum seekers, reporters, court system, go back to your country if you disagree??
 
Posted on 11-19-20 1:32 PM     [Snapshot: 1609]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@sajha keto: My apology if I inferred your position as such. All I’m saying is all of us have the right to have our political beliefs. I’m sure everyone here agrees with me that we have more rights here in US than we have in Nepal. Attacking one’s background to prove a point is not very logical. I’m sorry to hear that you had to face racism in this country. I agree racism is disgusting whether it be in Nepal or US or any parts of the world. There are many forms of racism. You would have to elaborate which one you have faced. I believe we can achieve anything in US if we have the right skills, hard work and right mindset.I don’t think racism is stopping any immigrants from achieving higher goals. Off course there are racist people in any part of world not just in US but doesn’t mean the whole country is racist. I don’t consider some white folks telling me to go back to my country in parking lot altercations as racist. It is his/her way of expressing his/her anger. I don’t consider American people not understanding my accent as racist because even for us it is hard to understand some non native English speaker from other countries.


 
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@Keyser Soze: I’m not here to defend Trump and his behavior nor I’m here to attack Biden or his supporters. I can go on and on about Biden’s bad behavior like you did about Trump but like I said I’m not here for that either. With due respect, You are the type who can’t keep orange man bad narrative out of your mouth that media fed you and are not capable of having logical conversation about policies. You only talk about how Trump words hurt you and your feelings not the substance.
PS: When I said, your type I don’t mean for all Biden supporters. It is just there are kind of people who look down on other people that don’t align with their views or beliefs.
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Posted on 11-19-20 3:06 PM     [Snapshot: 1641]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"So, please stop being judgmental about the people’s beliefs no matter how they got here or how they got their US residency"... you sud tell that to Orange man whose views toward people coming here are to seek asylum or crossing boders are all rapist, drug dealers and dvlottery
are from shit hole countries and they all are here to take aways jobs and live on welfare.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 3:18 PM     [Snapshot: 1655]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@Keyser Soze: See you proved my point. You can’t keep orange bad narrative out of your mouth. Congrats, you will not get your feelings hurt after Trump is gone.
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Posted on 11-19-20 3:28 PM     [Snapshot: 1656]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@nepalikahilo..i proved you point true that. I didn't had to create that narrative if he had shut his mouth!! You only said no should be judgmental about how some one gets their residendy or their background.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 9:10 PM     [Snapshot: 1741]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Unfortunately the dems are pedaling hate which most people can identify with and embrace. Another thing about this dynamic is the likelihood of being hypnotized. In a hypnotist show you see a lot of people in the crowd being hypnotized but it doesn’t affect few people. In the same way the democrat centric media pretty much hypnotized people and triggers them when they hear the different side. Its fun to watch these people get triggered and try to defend the same people that’s got them hypnotized.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 9:52 PM     [Snapshot: 1768]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@polisci..true that!! Dems supporters are hypnotized sitting home through media and Republicans supporters are getting enlightened by their savior who is holding rallies and his followers are attending it without even worry about pandemics. How great it that. Amazing that only one side is hypnotized and triggered though.
Trump filed 6 bankruptcies, fined 25 millions for fake university, ows millions to bank and here you still call him a good businessman. That pretty much sum who is hypnotized and who is not.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 10:14 PM     [Snapshot: 1800]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Clearly you are the most hypnotized one of the bunch! Everytime anyone says anything that is not in line with media story you get triggered like when those hypnotized hear the trigger word. You’re the first one to jump up to defend your masters and to offend the culprits for having the nerves to hold an opinion different from yours.

You try saying anything against trump or republicans and I don’t give a damn. I am not going to defend them. But obviously you will never admit you are the hypnotized one.

Amen
 
Posted on 11-19-20 10:57 PM     [Snapshot: 1816]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Your opinion about trump that he is good businessman is pretty fcked when it is pretty evident that he has 6 bankruptcies and paid millions of fines in lawsuits. These are not media story it is fact. You wrote big about Dems on how evil they are and yet its others party that are mostly serving jail times and many from trump campaign as well. U clearly taking sides and still dare to call other hypnotized. You see the problem??
 
Posted on 11-19-20 11:21 PM     [Snapshot: 1843]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I’m not doing jumping jack defending anyone or getting triggered for taking or not taking any sides like you are. At the end of the day it’s not going to make much difference to me. I say what I observe. I dont go jumping up and down to defend anyone like they are going to be my saviors.
 
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You guys have such narrow minds that you think anyone who doesn’t support the democratic party are trumpers trump supporters. Thats the same kind of ideology like religious fanatics who say everyone that does not belong to our religion are haraam.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 11:36 PM     [Snapshot: 1852]     Reply [Subscribe]
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But you are the one who labelled the other party hypnotized and evil first. I merely tried to show u the mirror.
 
Posted on 11-19-20 11:47 PM     [Snapshot: 1874]     Reply [Subscribe]
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You guys have such narrow minds that you think anyone who doesn’t support the democratic party are trumpers trump supporters. Thats the same kind of ideology like religious fanatics who say everyone that does not belong to our religion are haraam.
 
Posted on 11-20-20 6:07 AM     [Snapshot: 1924]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@polisci,
I was neither Biden supporter nor Trump. Was undecided voter until I did a bit more research on my own as mentioned above ( not just by watching CNN). I still don't have any objections who supports Trump but the rationale should be valid/genuine. You read the rationale behind those 4 folks in example at the beginning of the thread? Is that how are we supposed to decide?
‘मै खाउँ मै लाउँ सुख सयल वा मोज मै गरूँ, मै हाँसु मै नाचुँ बाकी सब मरून् दुर्बलरू"
This is what I see in most of the Nepali Trump supporters. ( Again not all)
 
Posted on 11-20-20 7:38 AM     [Snapshot: 1948]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sajha keto
I am not a trump supporter but if there are trump supporters I have nothing against them. Everyone has a right to choose their own leader.

‘मै खाउँ मै लाउँ सुख सयल वा मोज मै गरूँ, मै हाँसु मै नाचुँ बाकी सब मरून् दुर्बलरू"

I really don’t have anything against these kind of people either. In life I feel that I should not allow other people’s mentality or upbringing bring out negative feelings in me like anger jealousy greed unless they start messing with me or the well being of people and things I care about.

Again, it just amuses me how some people take political support so religiously like fanatics- attacking anyone who doesn’t support their masters who are making millions billions of dollars at taxpayers expense. 🤷🏻
 



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