A pro Maoist party, Khmer Rouge, in Cambodia killed more than one to three million (or between a quarter of the country?s population). Determined to create ?year Zero?, they crush social institutions such as banking and religion and emptied cities of their inhabitants. Thanks to the international law tribunal, this party is facing charge of genocide. Though Pol pot (Khmer Rouge party leader) is no longer alive, he is still remembered as a mass murderer of 20th century.

A pro Maoist party, Nepal communist party of Nepal (Maoist), in Nepal came into existence in 1995. Determined to out through constitutional monarchy and to create one party Maoist system, this party is responsible of killings more than 12,000 Nepalese people. Even though their dreams may not come true but this ongoing conflict is surely going to kill more people in Nepal. But the question arise what if Maoist really comes into the power? Will that be another Xerox copy of Khmer Rouge in Nepal? What would be the condition to those parties who oppose Maoist ideology? How would our neighbors and America react? Will our country be another Afghanistan or Iraq if Maoist comes into power?

I think these are the questions that must be discusses. Though it is just a hypothetical assumption of Maoist coming into power but the bitter truth is; in politics any thing is possible.
expecting your opinions...................

now i understood why sajha sucks!
guys and girls are interested in finding out..........
1) the most beautiful girls and boys in sajha
2) playing Antakchhari
3) asking who is ruina, sitra stuffs
but they are not interseted in giving their opinions on topics like above. i think most of the sajha users are dumb like me.... hehehehehe
mr. president don't waste time asking such questions any more, particularly in Sajha. bhattu is right...... sajha really sucks.

Hey President of Nepal are u still in confusion about Maoist coming into power!! and what if if they come into power, as u said it is crystal clear that they would entertain single party democracy where people with different opinion would be prosecuted. As per as I know, you should not be in confusion any more about them!

Nut

Thanks for your opinion. As I have told earlier my assumptions are just hypothetical. It is 100% that Nepal will never be ruled by Maoist and their phony murderous ideology but one should not turn his/her blind eyes to foresee worst case scenario.

mr. president don't waste time asking such questions any more, particularly in Sajha. bhattu is right...... sajha really sucks.

the question itself is as dumb as it can get, and you expect answers?? what are the similarities between, Maoist and Khamer Rouge, for god's sake even their philosophy (which one might call it a similarity) is different as jamin and patal..

?The question itself is as dumb as it can get, and you expect answers???
Confusion bro take a look on this?.
?The question itself is as dumb as it can get, and you expect answers???
Confusion bro take a look at this?.
The Khmer Rouge abolished currency, religion and private property and evacuated cities in the hopes of creating a Maoist agrarian society free of Western influence (though, like Mao, Pol Pot had studied the works of V. I. Lenin and Karl Marx in Europe) . Comparisons with Mao are inevitable. The fact that, as Short claims, more of China's citizens died as a direct result of Mao's rule than have died under the rule of any leader in history. Asian Marxism, as formulated by Mao, was in essence a Chinese construct. Pol Pot was a mild-mannered man with a winning smile who first wanted independence from France, then came to believe in a fundamentalist Marxism rooted in the soil as the only way to recover the greatness that had produced Angkor Wat.
Source :- Teipei times, wikipedia.org

would be nice if you do some research and comment. you can google in the internet.

even their philosophy (which one might call it a similarity) is different as jamin and patal..

No , confused. The Khmer Rogue was following Mao-ism in its pure, unrefined form. All the Third World revolutionaries have embraced Maoism as their chief ideology because of Mao's insistence on Guerrilla warfare and rural organization. I don't know much about the Nepali Maoist's future plans or their ideal state, but if they insist on having a Maoist state in its pure, unrefined form, then it won't be different from any Red to the core states.

Robert Kaplan's The Ends of the Earth: From Togo to Turkmenistan, From Iran to Cambodia, a Journey to the Frontiers of Anarchy, is worth reading if you want to get some idea on Cambodia and it's revolution.

One of the main features of the communist states is the planned economy. This means the state has to be a totalitarian state. Totalitarian does not mean brutal or anything, in politics it means, a highly centralized states which can penetrate the peoples' lives at it's will. Lenin came up with this model. Stalin took it a step further and redifened the word, and made the term synonomous with tyrannical, brutal, dicatorship etc. You have a totalitarian state which thinks the revolution is not yet complete, and the remnants of counter-revolutionary elements are still present, the state has all the necessary powers to eliminate those who it thinks are counter-revolutionary, reactionary elements. Some resort to brutality, some choose peaceful, un-brutal ways. I don't know what our Maoists views are on eliminating the counter revolutionary elements from the society if they come to power, I hope they will not follow Pol Pot's example, instead opt for peaceful ways to eliminate the counter-revolutionary elements.

its so sad that neapl is going the cambodia.it is disturbing to find so many similarities between the way maoists the khamer rouge operate.i pray that nepal does not end up like cambodia but if we nepalis don't do sth to stop then we will certainly.the main point is that we should not wait for someone come and help us,we should take charge and try to straighten up things.india will surely try to turn us into another sikkim, if we take their help and america will no be a dependable ally(i think..looking at thoe country's history in the region).

well presidentofnepal, this topic is really serious and as u said maoists coming into power is hypothetical but the deeds they are showing to get powers is nevertheless same as the present existing political parties.they are ready to do anything to fight against the government.May it be SAATHGATH with india or even lower acts than this.abduction and assessment are the ways of leading their power.so it is crystal clear when they come into power, may be they will dominate nepalese people but bootlickers of some unknown powers.nothing much!

The following picture speaks itself. Its not from Cambodia, its from Nepal.
With due acknowledgement.

Hello there!
I am writing concerning something that is totally irrelevant to the discussion taking place in this message board . I happen to share the exact same name with Bhumi-Ghi and I would like to now if the person in question really is called Bhumi GHIMIRE or its just a pseudo of some type or otherwise, I was also thinking of a senior student who went to BVS back in ktm with me. Please reply
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Approximately 11,000 (eleven thousand) people die each year fron gun related incidents (most of them gun related crimes) in the United States. About the same number of people died in the last 9 years of Maoist war in nepal or lets say 11,000 X 9 = 99,000 people died in the United States in the same amount of time without having to go through the Maoist insurgency like situation.

From that figure, we have to say that despite the Maoist war Nepalese are relatively safe.

You have probably foreseen the condition of future nepal. Regardless of these so called revolution I think Nepal is in the verge of foreign occupation direct or indirect. Things are not slowing down, on top of that offsprings of these top mao leaders are in other countries, i.e. they don't actually practice what they preach. One way or the other the victims are all poor and not rich. Poor army recruits and poor maoist farmers are killing each other and the credit goes to Hillbilly leaders. Hold on! why are our people still following the footsteps of Girija and Krishne........why can't some educated people come foreward and promote their ideas and negotiate options. why are people still marching behind stupid ideology of congress and communists whereas they have proven again and again that they've failed before and will fail again. Everybody out there are for the money and power and them people are still stupid enough to believe everything they say. If you still think I'm wrong....... Here's something for you haters of my thoughts...........you're bound to fall for anything if you don't stand for something.............believe me..... I'm unlike you. Holla at me.

"Approximately 11,000 (eleven thousand) people die each year fron gun related incidents (most of them gun related crimes) in the United States. From that figure, we have to say that despite the Maoist war Nepalese are relatively safe. " Neeta_ji

USA Population is 295,319,728
Nepal Population is 23,151,423
USA population is 12.76 times larger than Nepal
Based on neeta_ji?s data of 11,000 people dying in USA due to arm conflict.

Out of every 26,847 Americans, one people die every year due to gun conflict.
Out of every 2,104 Nepalese, one people died during the Maoist conflict in 9 years.
Do you think this is ok to say that despite the Maoist war Nepalese are relatively safe?

I guess I'm more or less correct.

By the way my data were not based on "armed conflict" in the US. The phrases " gun related crimes and incidents" and "armed conflict" bear two different meanings.

The phrase "armed conflict" usually implies as a fight by organized combatant groups, armies,combat organizations (instutionally trained to combat) with the use of various types of weapons against opposing organized combat groups, armies or combat organizations.

Where as ''gun related crimies and incidents" DOES NOT implies as an organized fight in the first place and are usually done by individually or very small group of individuals with firearms against another individual or against a very small group of individuals.

The gun related casulties in the US is NOT happening in the times of civil war. 11000 or so casulties are happening in the peacetime.

Isnt it possible that if the United States were to engulf itself into some sort of civil war, the casulties will go up far more dramaticaly.

The figure of 11000 comes up despite the very strict law enforcement efforts and huge spending on law enforcement personnels and equipments against the gun related killings and incidents in the US

Given the ready availibility of arms and ammo. as well as free lance killers all over the the US (forget about organized combat groups for a while). The figure will go not less 200 times.

isolated bro, thax for sharing your views.

Tara, khoi do you really think, they are walking on Mao's Footsteps? Have we not seen what has happened to Maobadi's philosophy is these past years? And ofcourse the local ranking maobadi's are out of hand! how can one even correspond, Khamer Rouge, who had such powerful and aggresive leaders to Maobadi?

Anyways, dont know much abt policits, and just my two cents. But hey, always eager to learn :)

Netaa ji, I guess you mean Gun related Homicidal deaths. But i dont think your logic is sound enough to reach the conclusion that nepal is relatively safe. You have not taken the population ratios into consideration. And what "relatively safe" means, seems open to interpretation.

And lets not talk about what if situations - US in a civil war?, Nuclear warfare?, homosexual robots?

You might prefer walking through kathmandu than compton in the middle of the night, but thats comparing one of the safest place in nepal, with one of the most notorious in US. And as far as I know, there are no immediate combat organizations operating in the US, i.e., besides the US Military...

?The phrase "armed conflict? usually implies as a fight by organized combatant groups, ............. armies or combat organizations.?
?Where as ''gun related crimies and incidents" DOES NOT implies as an organized fight in the first place ...................... against a very small group of individuals.?
Neeta ji,
Thanks for your definitions on ?armed conflict? and ?gun related crimes?. I have no reason to argue with those definition, but we are neither concerned with USA crime nor we are concerned with Cambodian war conflicts. We, Nepali, are concerned with our own domestic problems and it has nothing to do with crime rate of USA; so called Gun related Homicidal deaths.
I totally agree with Tongue tied; ?And lets not talk about what if situations - US in a civil war?, Nuclear warfare?, homosexual robots?? rather talk about Nepal- Civil war, Maoist take over and potential genocide.
Yes, genocide indeed is an unimaginable but as I have mentioned earlier politics is unpredictable. At list, I won?t be surprise to see prachandra acting as a prime minister under the direct rule of king Gynendra.

confused bro, dont get confused... khmer Rougue and Maoists are same not only in the way they have waged their wars, but also theoretically, its sad but they think they can bring their one party communist system by mass murder... that is what mao teaches...