Starting part 2 of the thread "JOIN DC RALLY..MAY 15..NEPE "

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-यालीबाट फर्कदा एकजना तन्नेरी युवकले कुराकानीको सिलसिलामा सोधे- किन केही शिक्षित युवकहरु नेपालको राजतन्त्रलाई समर्थन गर्न पुगेका ? मैले भनें ? तिनीहरुको मनभित्र पसेर हेर्नु, वास्तवमा त्यो राजतन्त्रप्रतिको सकारात्मक समर्थन नभएर अक्षम र भ्रष्ट नेताहरु प्रतिको नकारात्मक विद्रोह हो, त्यसैले मौलिक रुपमै खराब कुरो होईन त्यो ।

त्यस कुराकानीको भोलिपल्ट मैले अर्कै सिलसिलामा साझामा पोष्ट गरेको निम्न शब्दहरु त्यही कुराकानीको विस्तार भने हुन्छ ।

" डेढ दशक सम्म आफ्नो अक्षमता, दिशाविहिनता र भ्रष्टतालाई प्रदर्शन गरेका नेतामाथिको प्रहारलाई राजाको समर्थन वा प्रजातन्त्रको विरोध ठान्नु दैत्याकार अज्ञानता र मूर्खता बाहेक के होला ?

हो कतिपय मान्छेहरु अहिले राजालाई तह लगाउने कामलाई नम्बर एकको प्राथमिकता र अन्य कामलाई दोश्रा-तेश्रा चरण/ प्राथमिकता को काम ठान्दछन् । मेरो यसमा विशाल असहमति छ । मेरो विचारमा, माओवादी, राजा र भ्रष्ट राजनैतिक पिंढी- नेपाली प्रजातन्त्रका तीन महान शत्रुहरु- शक्ति र पुष्टिकरणको हिसाबले अन्नोन्याश्रित छन् , त्यसैले यीनलाई चरण चरण गरेर खतम पार्ने योजना अज्ञानताले भरिएको मात्रै हैन, नैतिक रुपले कमजोर र रणनैतिक र व्यावहारिक रुपमा विफलतामुखी छ । प्रजातन्त्रका यी तीन महान शत्रुहरुमध्ये कुनै दूईलाई काखी च्यापेर वा भविष्यको जिम्मामा सुम्पेर तेश्रोलाई प्रहार गरी खतम गर्ने योजना कुनै तिक्ष्ण वुद्धिको "वुद्धिजीवी" लाई त राम्रै लाग्ला तर त्यस्तो काममा ज्यान फाल्न अवुद्धिजीवी साधारण जनता अघि सर्ने छैनन् । र यो पछिल्लो वर्गको समर्थन/सहभगिता बिना नै प्रजातन्त्र ल्याउने सपना कसैले नदेखे हुन्छ ।

प्रजातन्त्रका तीन महान शत्रुहरु- माओवादी, राजा र भ्रष्ट राजनैतिक पिंढी- को त्रिलिङ्गीय समागम र गर्भाधानबाट जन्मिने प्रजातन्त्रको कुरो चाही बेग्लै हो । तर त्यस्तो प्रजातन्त्रले विगत डेढ दशकलाई ईतिहासको रंगमंचमा पुन: दोह-याउने काम मात्र गर्नेछ ।

अब प्रजातन्त्र जन्माउने काम यसको प्राकृतिक जननी, जनता, लाई नै दिनुपर्छ । किनभने अन्यथा सब भ्रम हो । सब नक्कली हो । र यसैले मूर्खता हो ।"

To Nepe and all so called "Worry Takers" about Nepal ,
If you really worry about what is happening in Nepal, why don't you go back to Nepal and work there for betterment of democratic system in Nepal. But if you are here in USA and making money and having good life but worried about Nepal, it has no meaning and no sense.

It is completely non sense act. No body will support you. I am democratic supporter and anti monarchy but I am in USA and trying to make my life better. I left Nepal and moved here for better life. Hence, I am an opportunist and do not deserve to act like what people did in Washington DC.

People may not agree with my thoughts but this is what the reality is.

Everyone has his/her own perceptions/ideas/views regarding things - u bahun also have one. I have, nepe has , everybody has. There are some views which many people agree with, like the one presented above by Nepe and some are views totally personal, selfish like yours. So, you have no grounds/no right to categorically state your personal views as THE REALITY.

LOL. :)

Now,
"तिनीहरुको मनभित्र पसेर हेर्नु, वास्तवमा त्यो राजतन्त्रप्रतिको सकारात्मक समर्थन नभएर अक्षम र भ्रष्ट नेताहरु प्रतिको नकारात्मक विद्रोह हो, त्यसैले मौलिक रुपमै खराब कुरो होईन त्यो । "

Absolutely. Along with barbaric inhuman blood fest of Maoist.

"प्रजातन्त्रका यी तीन महान शत्रुहरुमध्ये कुनै दूईलाई काखी च्यापेर वा भविष्यको जिम्मामा सुम्पेर तेश्रोलाई प्रहार गरी खतम गर्ने योजना कुनै तिक्ष्ण वुद्धिको "वुद्धिजीवी" लाई त राम्रै लाग्ला तर त्यस्तो काममा ज्यान फाल्न अवुद्धिजीवी साधारण जनता अघि सर्ने छैनन् । र यो पछिल्लो वर्गको समर्थन/सहभगिता बिना नै प्रजातन्त्र ल्याउने सपना कसैले नदेखे हुन्छ ।"

Nepe ji,
I could not agree more with these logical presentations. Being born as human, gifted by god with a mind to think and heart for passion; my blood is no less redder than yours. I do not want to be living in a place where some people are born a god and rest of are enslaved; however different names/way we might want to present it. Equality is must. Among all races, all Nepalese.

But, like MAJORITY of Nepalese, I do not know, where to turn to. Who to believe? I have seen enough of these politicians absolutely raping our nation, and abusing and playing with law, like a baby in a craddle. Gyane; it is obvious who and what he is. Maoist ( those who are actually practicing the inhuman acts), they are not even human.

Then who? Us? Yes of course. But as ironic as it might be, we need few leaders, (not father figure: mind you); strong enough to direct the flow of positive energy of masses to build something constructive, and weak enough to be held accountable and punished. Alas, the nature to be "all strong and untouchable" among our own respective circles (political groups), does not allow it to happen.

My intake, however unprofessional it might be, is : The first phase to board a plane for 'total democracy' would be punish/ prosecute corrupt leaders. OK, it is board and too complicated to nail all of them. But at least, if the parties, especially the new generation politicians (not gundas), would revolt within the party and THROW AWAY those old crooks FOREVER, with no chance to return under any circumstances; and bring transparency within their network, a lot of people with a dream for free and PEACEFUL Nepal would at first, ideologically, then (most probably) physically stand together against these three axis-of-evils.

We are tired of these politicians; we do not feel they are speaking for us. What is the difference if a bandit runs a country or a "daku" or a murderer? Ok murderer are different; but that bandit and those "dakus' are same. One got to suck our blood for centuries and others WILL if they get a chance.

SO, those old corrupt and undemocratic 'Netas' need to go once and for all; never to be return under ANY PRETEXT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANES. Then, only then, will the 'JANTA' will rise; depending on the status quo of the circumstances.

Mero dui sabda.

Jai Nepal,
IndisGuise:)

What I really fail to comprehend with BHUSYA kukhur_bahun like above is noone was protesting against him. Noone asked him to join in hands with others. So, why does it bother him and few other hyenas, if others are doing something that doesn't bother THEM AT ALL. If you want to remain bystander, your choice. if you want to support maoists, gyane, political parties, yor free will. If you wanna live high on your ideals, and preach about democracy your life. If you are not concerned at all, then why criticize others that are concerned (even if the concern is fake). its the same nauseating lines that keep coming back "yo bhayena tyo bhayena, go to nepal" If it really angers him, why doesn't he get a group and do a rally himself.

Indi, great insight!

snurp - son, first of all learn to read the words correctly. Secondly, you are saying not to criticize others but you yourself are criticizing me. You are controversial and complecated.

Hence son, stay back if you don't have an ability to give opinions.

Your dad.

Thanks Indi.

You might find the following answer of mine to a question whether there is a party I support interesting as well.

" धेरै लामो समयसम्म- ठ्याक्क भन्ने हो भने - असोजतन्त्रको आरम्भसम्म, सबै प्रमुख दलहरु जीवन, धुकधुकी, आदर्श र जिज्ञासा गुमाईसकेर सडिरहेका निर्जिव लाशहरुको दङदङी गन्हाउने थुप्रो जस्तो लाग्थ्यो मलाई । हजारौं हजार रातहरु मैले तिनीहरुको शोकमा बिताएँ । र अक्सर म कुनै एउटा नयाँ, जीवन, आदर्श र रचनात्मक जिज्ञासाको ताजा रगत बगिरहेको एउटा नयाँ क्रान्तिकारी लोकतान्त्रिक दलको fantasy मा हराउँथें ।

दलहरु आज पनि त्यति बदलिईसकेका छैनन्; खास गरेर ज्येष्ठ नेतृत्व त यथावत कुहिईरहेको छ ।

तर असोजतन्त्रपछि, कनिष्ट नेतृत्व, कार्यकर्ता र समर्थक वर्गमा विस्तारै केही चेतनाको संचार भईरहेको छ ।

मलाई के आशा (केवल आशा, भरोसा होईन) हुन थालेको छ भने, शायद कुनै नितान्त नयाँ दलको आवश्यकता छैन । शायद यो अतिविलम्बित नै सही तर जागृत हुँदै गएको चेतनालाई यथोचित हौसला दिईयो भने, दलहरुको यो भग्नावशेषबाटै गर्न सकिन्छ, समयको हाँकलाई आँक्न र आँट्न सक्ने दल वा दलहरुको निर्माण ।

तर पनि म कहिलेकाही के fantasize गर्छु भने सबै दलहरुका दूई चार दूई चार स्वच्छ र प्रगतिशिल नेताहरु र नागरिक समाजका प्रगतिशिल मान्छेहरु मिलेर एउटा नयाँ क्रान्तिकारी गणतान्त्रिक दलको निर्माण भएको ।

जे सुकै र जसरी सुकै होस् अनि जोसुकैले गरोस्, जुन शक्ति, गठबन्धन वा आविष्कारले अहिलेको सामन्तवाद-आतङ्कवाद-भ्रष्टाचारको त्रिकोणात्मक Quagmire लाई तोडेर परिवर्तनको ढोका खोल्न सक्छ- त्यो राजा, माओवादी वा कुनै भ्रष्ट दल नै किन नहोस् -समय त्यसैको हो । र म पनि त्यसैको हुँ ।"

"जे सुकै र जसरी सुकै होस् अनि जोसुकैले गरोस्, जुन शक्ति, गठबन्धन वा आविष्कारले अहिलेको सामन्तवाद-आतङ्कवाद-भ्रष्टाचारको त्रिकोणात्मक Quagmire लाई तोडेर परिवर्तनको ढोका खोल्न सक्छ- त्यो राजा, माओवादी वा कुनै भ्रष्ट दल नै किन नहोस् -समय त्यसैको हो । र म पनि त्यसैको हुँ ।"

--> Nepe ji, The above mentioned phrases are tempting and I would almost, yes almost, fall for those in this desparate times. However, the linegring questions that jerks me is,
What kind of परिवर्तन ?

A change brought by terrorists, however grand it might be will only welcome another september 11th. And we know Nepal can not afford to have one.

Raja and Neta haru? Khai ke bhanne ke nabhanne.

Ani, yes, Republicism is an option, and circumstances permitting, I think it might be they way to head. But, my leaning is at the very minimum and AT BEST, monarchy as a symbolic value. Nothing more. And also under the law and not penny from our hard earned money. Let me just say, even though i want Gyane, his croonies and political leaders to be held absolutely accountable and punished, but being on a logical side, I would settle for, making certain that they no longer can suck on us and make merry on our sweat.

Maoist, i detest them. However valiant their goals WERE, their path have made them NOTHING more than a TERRORIST. But, for the sake and betterment of Nepal, they could be adjusted within the mainstream, ONLY to protect the lives that would be lost and destruction that is apparent.

Tara pani Nepe ji, kata kata lagcha, सामन्तवाद-आतङ्कवाद-भ्रष्टाचारको त्रिकोणात्मक Quagmire लाई jasle todcha ma pani tyaskai.
La ta bida pau. I apolozige if my statements preceding this one are rather shaky, yaha ekchin double edge cha. Pachi bartalaab hola ni.

IndisGuise:)

Snurp, aja surya purba bata udayecha. :)
Ta ke care mate.

May 15 ta gaisakyo haina ra..... ki aauna aajhai baki chha.. 2006 ko ho ? kya tayari yaaar...

अँ २००६ नै होला। पुर्मिलन समारोह जस्तै हो, परिणाम ननिस्किने रयालीहरु।

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Kudos to all those who participated in the rally! My thoughts were with you.

कुदोस् रे ?

-यालीको शुरुमा अलिकति कुदेको त हो, पार्क वरिपरि घुमिरहेको आशा गरे जत्तिकै लामो जुलुसको फोटो भ्याईनभ्याई खिच्नलाई । झन् गणतन्त्रवादी नारा लगाउने जत्था पनि भेटेपछि त मलाई के चाहियो ? मच्ची मच्ची नारा लगाउँदै कुद्धै । त्यो पिक ट्याममा मलाई झण्डै १००० मान्छे होलान् जस्तो लाग्या थियो । फ्रिनेपालले मान्छेहरु खटाएरै गन्न लगाउँदा पनि सरदर ७०० को उपस्थिति पाए । १-२ भाषण पछि मान्छे अलिक पातलिए । सितारा झुल्किन्छिन् कि भनेर आँखा घुमाएको त हो । खास गरेर दूई लामाहरुले शान्तिप्रार्थना गर्दा सितारालाई सम्झ्या थिएँ । बाडुली लाग्यो कि ?

USOFA,

Thanks for pasting the hilarious news report. Gorkhapatra and Nispaxa are doing wonderful jobs of entertaining the rallygoers with priceless reports.

Nepe hajur, baduli khoob lagay thiyo ani ichhya pani, tara ke ke le saath diyena. :)

गोरखापत्रको समाचारको अन्तिम लाईन छुटेको रहेछ।

--अमेरिकामा समाचार संकलन गर्न गोरखापत्रका प्रधान सम्पादक श्री ज्ञानेन्द्र शाह स्वयम् उपस्थित हुनु हुन्थ्यो।

अकविज्यू, माथिको समाचार निष्पक्ष साप्ताहिकबाट उधृत हो । यहाँ छ लिङ्क

- http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/nepaliweekly/nispakshya/2005/may/may17/mainnews.php

अनि गोरखापत्रको चाँही यहाँ,

नाराहरु:

हाल गोरखापत्रको प्रधान सम्पादक (परम-प्रधान सम्पादक !) राजा स्वयं भएकोमा व्यंग्य गर्न खोजेको, मिलेन जस्तो छ।