Nepe, you have failed to recognize what i have written, so here let me explain it to u... (i am writing this, understanding you know the difference between, "learn" and 'understand") Fristly, i never said, i myself have learned anything with Maturana's statement, Secondly, i was just extending what Humberto Maturana had to say. "Objectivity in parentheses" isnt my personal view, it's Maturana's statement, so who sud i be to set an example for it ? ..i am just a student nepe..trying to understand everything i can, not read and live on everything i have studied, ..and again, if you live on everything you have understood, wouldnt that meke u supid? ..so dont expect me to set an example on everything that i have read and understood....yes ofcourse, do expect opinions from me on subjects that i have studied and understood and thats exactly what i was doing, pourning my opinion.... and thridly, i have asked you many times not to characterize me, with your limited knowledge about me. So therefore, dont call me something i am not, because i have my own personal beilifs that i stand for.