casey what you are saying is just ludacris n outrageous. First of all what do you mean that the past does not matter, OF COURSE IT MATTERS! Decision variables all rely on past events. Should a criminal who has been found guilty of his second or third offense be handed a heavier sentence than compared to one who has no ofefences? Yes yes yes! Ron Artest has one of the worst records in behavior, breaking several violations over the years. So where was the line where one had to say ok stop, well this was the line, and he got his just desserts. Wallace a less fine, what he did was wrong, but far less severe and not even comparable to attacking fans. And his record is not one of a "known trouble maker". Scuffles and minor pushes or even brawls happen in the heat of the moment. But going all out with your comrade of fan killers on the people is on a different level of your so called "heat of the moment". Which brings me to my next point, how can you say that just cuz of the heat of the moment Oneal and Jackson should be fined ten games. I don't thinking i can describe running towards the fun to refuel the fire and sucker punching him is heat of the moment, or swinging wildly at any fan, mind you not even the fan who started it, but every fan that he (jackson) could hit. The only heat of the moment i saw there was Ben Wallace's push, which he felt it was unnecessary and rightfully so. The only thing i agree with you is make the fans pay. Find those hooligans and ban them, take away their season tickets, arrest them, but fine them. This is not about who started it, but about where the boundaries are in professional sports. Key word, professional, this is not street ball, a professional should act like one, and expect the unexcusable AND unprofessional behavior of some of the fans. *goes back to sleep* -jb