Yah I agree! I tried to talk to my granny on phone other day, he could barely hear anything. Both of them are in their nineties. I wish I'll see them again if i am able to dig myself out from this quicksand :). Grandparents are such blessings. They used to scold/advise me in strange ways, now I think about it, there isn't a person in my vicinity to question my doings. anyways, I wrote this long ago about my grandfather, jus in case anyone is interested. http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=6978&dsn=sajhaarchive#1881 adios! goodnite!