Forceful detention? Probable cause? What are you talking about? You were making sense a while ago my friend.
The cop wasn't detaining the old man by slamming him on the ground. They were acting on self defense when he reached out to his pocket during a pat-down. Do you want the cop to go get a probable cause warrant before they take any action to defend themselves? I think we are missing something here. My argument is not about cop taking an action to defend themselves.
Also, please do not twist my words. I didn't say the onus is on us to tell our parents. No it's not! And you can chose to not tell your parents, it was merely a suggestion to keep ourselves protecte. Did you even read the links I posted?
I am just about done repeating the same thing again and again.