Posted by: Eutab4 September 19, 2013
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Imagination is MUCH MORE important than knowledge. So this ‘one world’ imagination is also admirable. Is it achievable? It depends upon your personal views. It roots to the basic questions; do you believe humans are inherently selfish creatures with evil intents or ‘godly’ creatures only doing evil things due to their circumstances?
Ujl very well puts the philosophical aspect of us as a Chetana. It makes us very special and far-sighted, and so we use it to question the existence of country, importance of wealth, power, bodily beauty etc. Yes, we should question what society calls ‘normal’. BUT I was born in Nepal and now living in the US. This is very real. I cannot rip-off my passport and roam around.
Other posters like kiddo and vivant have contrasted Ujl’s position well, especially Vivant’s 3rd point. Practicality is something we must confirm to regardless of your philosophically state. One cannot contribute to the society, in fact cannot even survive, without at least having some level of ‘herd mentality’. Socratic thoughts are still relevant and probably will remain such for coming couple of centuries if not longer, but he was so far out than everyone else that he got poisoned.
Other posters like kiddo and vivant have contrasted Ujl’s position well, especially Vivant’s 3rd point. Practicality is something we must confirm to regardless of your philosophically state. One cannot contribute to the society, in fact cannot even survive, without at least having some level of ‘herd mentality’. Socratic thoughts are still relevant and probably will remain such for coming couple of centuries if not longer, but he was so far out than everyone else that he got poisoned.
I believe human being is not a colossal bag of bunch of things. We are like a train, a group of many many individual compartment filled with each individual thing and one (or only few things) at work at a time not everything churned together. One compartment filled with love, the next with hatred, desire, generosity, patriotism, Chetana…etc.
Now about the sense of patriotism, even with the utmost Chetana one must have some sense of ego. You cannot say, for everything around you, ‘ohh it means nothing’. Ego is important..in fact it very useful (of course, everything has its limit). We only see ego in its negative context like war, power/money hunger etc. But think about it…it was the ego that brought humanity out of the cave, that ego to better that stone knife, that ego to have a sustainable food production, find herbs to cure cuts, invent water clock, invent machines…and the list goes on. Einstein didn’t have to do what he did. It’s that desire/ego to feel proud of yourself by bringing out the best of your inner being. We would still be using pigeons to transmit messages if we kept thinking ‘why does it matter?’ Why are Japanese or European rich…they went through a miserable history..and evolved a sense of ego to do better..because it matters. So you cannot disconnect yourself from your circumstance by focusing only in one compartment.
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