Confused bro: To further your toilet time meditation, here's something that I have gathered from reading various articles in the last few years. Maybe it'll attain you Nirvana in your toilet meditation for they say orgasm is the closest you come to it. And the next time you hear a girl condescendingly brag about faking orgasm, maybe you can tell her that she's denying herself the only experience of Nirvana. :) ------ Brahman (not to be confused with Brahmaa of the Hindu trinity) is the concept of universal "oneness" that is above all; it is the untimate reality. Brahman is "no thing" since it is the unchanging, infinite, transcendent reality. Our atman, clouded by maya, can not perceive this ultimate reality but atman's true identity is the Brahman itself. In realizing the identity of this atman as Brahman or the union of the atman with Brahman, the individual self has no meaning. This awakening into "self-less"ness is being sunya. Brahman is sunyata. Buddha did not believe in Brahman as the ultimate reality. Realizing the true nature of samsara as it exists by emptying ourselves of all distorted perceptions of the Absolute is becoming sunya. The state in which original reality of samsara exists with all things devoid of self nature and inherent existence but with a potential to become something perceptible is sunyata. As for the quantum nature of things, many experimental findings have been carried out that tend to suggest that the fundamental particles lack inherent nature but that they have the potential to exist after a mind interacts to give it its meaning. Quantum physics gives us stochastic models describing possible states of a particle in the universe (where the particle has a potential for existence with varying probabilities). Of all the possible states, the state which the particle assumes is a direct result of the act of observation (by the mind) without which the particle's potential for manifestation is not possible. What is the particle before we observe it as such? The state where particles have the potential to exist is the Quantum sunyata. ------------------ Now back to work. :( - Scats