Posted by: alternate February 1, 2013
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Freedom2012,
You crack me up by saying the burden of proof is on people who refuse to believe the existence of God. You are the one who is making an argument- the onus of proof is on you. I believe in nothing, and there is nothing to prove there exist nothing, although I am not a nihilist.
The good thing about science is it admits it needs correction in presence of evidence that supports a hypothesis. Pluto is still there; it just doesn't fit the new definition of a planet. It's not like you refuse to believe in law of gravity and you start floating; the phenomenon exists regardless of your opinion.
The more explanation that we get due to scientific discoveries, the more understanding we have of Universe and our own existence. Funny enough, there are many people who accept these discoveries and incorporate their interpretation of these findings calling these discoveries compatible to intelligent design. But you have to be of different breed to apply creationism to retroactively profess your holy book to explain everything under Universe.
When you find 500 dollars that you didn’t have it with you, you are going to assume it came from a real person – you’re not going to think it came from a supernatural being because you know existence of human and not of god, but I won’t be surprised even if you think otherwise. Science does explain most about Universe and its expansion and big bang. There are empirical evidence to support these hypothesis and most importantly willingness to modify or even discard the hypotheses.
I don’t know myself what was there in the beginning of time. But we do have explanation of events thereafter. That’s immaterial and not even the moot point of this discussion. If you are telling me anything that’s not explainable is due to someone not existent’s work, I don’t believe it in principle – do you see the irony here? I know you don’t because your head is wrapped around to existence of a higher being – which itself is an innocuous idea. The issue is morality and divine suggestions that came from someone who doesn’t exist: I know you’ll tell me He is invisible; invisibility is a property of an object that exists and is hidden in presence of luminance. I’m not an invisible millionaire. If I don’t have million dollars/rupees/denomination of your choice, I am not a millionaire; I am in no way an invisible millionaire. I don’t exist to be as a millionaire because I am not. Nevertheless, I exist because I do.
You can continue to believe in whatever you wish, but don’t tell me prove your wishes. Don’t ask me explain inexplicable. Don’t try to instill me morality based upon your interpretation of rigid book - I understand humanity and the ecosystem I am in without reading a chapter from your book or anyone’s. At the risk of sounding smug and conceited, I proudly can say I came to conclusion from my own observation and not from something I blindly follow. And herewith, I also keep myself open to change in presence of evidence on my contrary. But please don’t ask me prove your fantasy.
You crack me up by saying the burden of proof is on people who refuse to believe the existence of God. You are the one who is making an argument- the onus of proof is on you. I believe in nothing, and there is nothing to prove there exist nothing, although I am not a nihilist.
The good thing about science is it admits it needs correction in presence of evidence that supports a hypothesis. Pluto is still there; it just doesn't fit the new definition of a planet. It's not like you refuse to believe in law of gravity and you start floating; the phenomenon exists regardless of your opinion.
The more explanation that we get due to scientific discoveries, the more understanding we have of Universe and our own existence. Funny enough, there are many people who accept these discoveries and incorporate their interpretation of these findings calling these discoveries compatible to intelligent design. But you have to be of different breed to apply creationism to retroactively profess your holy book to explain everything under Universe.
When you find 500 dollars that you didn’t have it with you, you are going to assume it came from a real person – you’re not going to think it came from a supernatural being because you know existence of human and not of god, but I won’t be surprised even if you think otherwise. Science does explain most about Universe and its expansion and big bang. There are empirical evidence to support these hypothesis and most importantly willingness to modify or even discard the hypotheses.
I don’t know myself what was there in the beginning of time. But we do have explanation of events thereafter. That’s immaterial and not even the moot point of this discussion. If you are telling me anything that’s not explainable is due to someone not existent’s work, I don’t believe it in principle – do you see the irony here? I know you don’t because your head is wrapped around to existence of a higher being – which itself is an innocuous idea. The issue is morality and divine suggestions that came from someone who doesn’t exist: I know you’ll tell me He is invisible; invisibility is a property of an object that exists and is hidden in presence of luminance. I’m not an invisible millionaire. If I don’t have million dollars/rupees/denomination of your choice, I am not a millionaire; I am in no way an invisible millionaire. I don’t exist to be as a millionaire because I am not. Nevertheless, I exist because I do.
You can continue to believe in whatever you wish, but don’t tell me prove your wishes. Don’t ask me explain inexplicable. Don’t try to instill me morality based upon your interpretation of rigid book - I understand humanity and the ecosystem I am in without reading a chapter from your book or anyone’s. At the risk of sounding smug and conceited, I proudly can say I came to conclusion from my own observation and not from something I blindly follow. And herewith, I also keep myself open to change in presence of evidence on my contrary. But please don’t ask me prove your fantasy.