Posted by: bittertruth April 28, 2012
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Let me start this with quote(if you also mention who quoted those quotes, that'd be great rather than sounding it's your own) as well,
'People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness.
Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.
-Dalai Lama '
I've never said what your thought is wrong. I was just arguing that at least we should use our own logic not others. You still have not read that bill on your own, and I already have mentioned that if you read the bill and you still have the same idea, I would respect that. But if you think I don't need to read that pages long bill, but support those who already read the bill, I've no words to say.
and, you are saying with this bill, our privacy is gone?, welll.. read what I said above.. our privacy is gone long long ago brother. If you torrent and seed, and the owner finds your IP, your ISP sends you a big old NOTICE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT right on your door. I'm not faking, just go and search google with that keyword(NOTICE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT) and this has been going since 2006 so far I remember. Way before SOPA/PIPA or CISPA was even thought of.
What I'm saying is, now they're declaring openly that they're doing it. Before, they were already doing it without our concern. The only glitch is that they want to take our right to sue on privacy concern. That means we can't file lawsuits against those companies who handed our information to government. This is it. All this outcry is just over this. Not that it's some new BEAST unleashed upon us. I agree there are couple of more concerns as well. But the whole thing is over it.
BTW, "nobody owns internet" is little narrowed-down idea. We all know who created internet, Tim Berner Lee. He wanted to have that network where everyone of his colleagues from around the world could access the database regardless of whatever operating systems they were using. He just wanted to share some information. He created first hyperlink page and to access which he coded the first HTTP browser ever. I forgot the name but he did. This very basic concept of network accessibility revolutionized the way information was shared. Overtime, other corporations tried to take over it and it scared the shit out of him. He set the standards on how the web should be laid out and regulated, WWW consortium was born. Oh yeah, they set rules on internet. In another word, they control it and on that regard, they somehow control internet.
And remember, they have 'kill switch' on internet as well. The moment it's turned on, internet is dead on every house in the planet. Don't think your ISP is the who gives you internet, supercially YES but at core level, they don't.
You are right, nobody owns Internet Yet everyone owns it :D That's the definition of network, isn't it?? ;D
'People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness.
Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.
-Dalai Lama '
I've never said what your thought is wrong. I was just arguing that at least we should use our own logic not others. You still have not read that bill on your own, and I already have mentioned that if you read the bill and you still have the same idea, I would respect that. But if you think I don't need to read that pages long bill, but support those who already read the bill, I've no words to say.
and, you are saying with this bill, our privacy is gone?, welll.. read what I said above.. our privacy is gone long long ago brother. If you torrent and seed, and the owner finds your IP, your ISP sends you a big old NOTICE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT right on your door. I'm not faking, just go and search google with that keyword(NOTICE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT) and this has been going since 2006 so far I remember. Way before SOPA/PIPA or CISPA was even thought of.
What I'm saying is, now they're declaring openly that they're doing it. Before, they were already doing it without our concern. The only glitch is that they want to take our right to sue on privacy concern. That means we can't file lawsuits against those companies who handed our information to government. This is it. All this outcry is just over this. Not that it's some new BEAST unleashed upon us. I agree there are couple of more concerns as well. But the whole thing is over it.
BTW, "nobody owns internet" is little narrowed-down idea. We all know who created internet, Tim Berner Lee. He wanted to have that network where everyone of his colleagues from around the world could access the database regardless of whatever operating systems they were using. He just wanted to share some information. He created first hyperlink page and to access which he coded the first HTTP browser ever. I forgot the name but he did. This very basic concept of network accessibility revolutionized the way information was shared. Overtime, other corporations tried to take over it and it scared the shit out of him. He set the standards on how the web should be laid out and regulated, WWW consortium was born. Oh yeah, they set rules on internet. In another word, they control it and on that regard, they somehow control internet.
And remember, they have 'kill switch' on internet as well. The moment it's turned on, internet is dead on every house in the planet. Don't think your ISP is the who gives you internet, supercially YES but at core level, they don't.
You are right, nobody owns Internet Yet everyone owns it :D That's the definition of network, isn't it?? ;D