Posted by: GopalGrg April 10, 2012
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yes we gurungs also have the system but we are not as rigid as the one practice in Hindu society. we don't discrimnate to the point where we are not allowed to intermarry or not allow to drink from 16 jaate gurung. 4 jaate being higher ranking/.
4 jaate mingle and marry with 16 jaate and it's not something like in aryan caste system where dalits are not even allowed to enter the house of so call high ranking caste or used the same water tap. gurung stratified system was created to divide gurung families lineage.
about hinduism i never said hiinduism was never part of nepal. i just want to separatae Indian based Hinduism from Nepali based Hinduism. actually before the advent of licchavis, indigenious local people like newar, rai, limbus had their own verson of hinduism. they mostly follow shivaite form of hinduism. that nepal in the early time had absent of vedic, brahamanical form of rituals, rites and custom that are prevalent today. it's only after the advent of licchavis that local population in kathmandu valley was influenced by the vedic form of hinduism. and with the arrival of licchavis, this statified system or caste system was intorduced by the licchavi king. and yes the licchavi king brough vedic form of hindusim. they brough the statue of narayan(sleeping vishnu) through forced labor from india.
it was at this period that nepali based hinduism merged with indian based hinduism. the fusion of nepali religion + indian religion paved away for the creation of modern Hinduism.
gurung on the other hands has always been buddhist and also include bon religion although some of us were later influenced by the hinduism and became hindus. i have no regret for that because hinduism and buddhism co-existed in nepal for unknown times now.
sherpas, tamang, thakali are predomnately buddhist. as for magar it is quite complex. many have became hindus mainly because that's where p.n shah started his unification. some magar told me they are buddhist. yet i have seen and experience that magar also have their own local deities and they pray to their forefathers(ancestor's worship) just like rai and limbus.
yes we gurungs also have the system but we are not as rigid as the one practice in Hindu society. we don't discrimnate to the point where we are not allowed to intermarry or not allow to drink from 16 jaate gurung. 4 jaate being higher ranking/.
4 jaate mingle and marry with 16 jaate and it's not something like in aryan caste system where dalits are not even allowed to enter the house of so call high ranking caste or used the same water tap. gurung stratified system was created to divide gurung families lineage.
about hinduism i never said hiinduism was never part of nepal. i just want to separatae Indian based Hinduism from Nepali based Hinduism. actually before the advent of licchavis, indigenious local people like newar, rai, limbus had their own verson of hinduism. they mostly follow shivaite form of hinduism. that nepal in the early time had absent of vedic, brahamanical form of rituals, rites and custom that are prevalent today. it's only after the advent of licchavis that local population in kathmandu valley was influenced by the vedic form of hinduism. and with the arrival of licchavis, this statified system or caste system was intorduced by the licchavi king. and yes the licchavi king brough vedic form of hindusim. they brough the statue of narayan(sleeping vishnu) through forced labor from india.
it was at this period that nepali based hinduism merged with indian based hinduism. the fusion of nepali religion + indian religion paved away for the creation of modern Hinduism.
gurung on the other hands has always been buddhist and also include bon religion although some of us were later influenced by the hinduism and became hindus. i have no regret for that because hinduism and buddhism co-existed in nepal for unknown times now.
sherpas, tamang, thakali are predomnately buddhist. as for magar it is quite complex. many have became hindus mainly because that's where p.n shah started his unification. some magar told me they are buddhist. yet i have seen and experience that magar also have their own local deities and they pray to their forefathers(ancestor's worship) just like rai and limbus.