Still waiting for the answer to my question, guys.

And seriously, if this is the quality of this discussion moving forward on this thread, then I am done talking here. To make all of my 'Bidwan gurus' happy I will be the first to admit:

I lost, you guys won. You guys are 100% correct. I am 100% wrong. Best of luck to you guys and your life, I am done discussing on this thread. Congratulations on your win. May the nature of your truth and knowledge bring you as much happiness, joy and satisfaction as mine has brought to me. Best of luck to all of you.

With only best wishes and much love to my brothers on Sajha,
Homeyji