Posted by: Shantipriya February 3, 2011
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Here is the reality and if you find hard time accepting it then you will continue to feel pain within yourself.
First, I did not talk anything on culture and language here, I just forwarded a news-piece on wrongly over-used word. Next, "Newar" language became "Newar+I" only after "Khas" language conspired snatching the word "Nepali" replacing "Gorkhali" in the palace of Ranas."
- It is immaterial what name you want to have and how you want to correct it the fact is Newar Community are well knowns all around the world as an " newar" not the one time majority population of "Nepa" valley. So if some says it is newari how can that be not correct- where is the prooff that Khas jati conspired you then. Now if you want to denounce historical fact then tell " Nepa" as separate rajya and undo the PN Shah's victroy. Can you? No right on the same ground if newari has become more pervasive and popular than Nepal Bhasa (even nepal bhasa has been equally used as I remember from my childhood to today) why so big fuss? Also, we ourself recognize ourself as a " newa"- remember " jhi newa newaye jhui" then we in our talk we say " newa bhaye lah le" so why you wnat to make big issue.
Newars and other non-khas are open and receptive more than necessary. If talking about a wrongly used word should trigger ethnic tension, then, Nepal would have triggered bloodshed while so many languages were banned from official use for centuries, so many traditional-systems dismantled, so many cultural assets exploited.
O c'mon, do not try to connect KTM newar community with other non khas, as KTM newars have never been receptive and open, as I said, we are the one who discover all kind of derogatory words to other community. Sen- to mangolian, marsya to teraibasi, Khen to chetri, barmu to bahun and so forth. we make big fuss of Nepal. I remember how our newari budhi society used to despise " chat of terai people" and "teej of bahun chetri". I am just giving an example, accepting our fault will make us stronger and help us move forward brother, why you want to shrink your heart?
"Nay, Chhipa, Bhagra, Jyapu, Nau, Jogi, Tamwo, Bare, Po, Kau, Syasya, Barmu, Guruju" etc. are not considered derrogatory-I remember when my mom used to say " ah babu bhahale mithawone mathe ni nya tegu wo jaypu tegu then jui mutulahaye bani jui" ( do not go to play with jyapu and sahi kids you will do like them and learn all kind of foul language) this is how I was raised and our society. You kidding me bro- can you go and chettrapati and call a sahi/khadgi "wo nya ka la ta da?" ( wo nya can you cut a peice of lamb for me?" can you. stop BS bro we all newars know it.
The core-settlement of KTM did rarely get a significant change or development budget. These areas are almost unchanged for last 300 years. All developments in KTM is in outskirts of old-settlement where KTM people do not live.
You need to brush up your knowledge brother, 20 years ago, most of newari settlment did not have water supply, hiti, tunchi or common hiti established by rana used to only one source, most of bahals , nani, roads used to unpaved, now see where is the core area. again these are mere examples, the foot pring of ktm is so rich, and above all culture is so rich, even you wish, the outlook will not be changed even in next 1000 years but that does not mean KTM core area did not get any development, you must be kidding, Brother have you even been to inchanku danda where tamang village is ? it is in outskirt and mere 6 km away from heart of the ktm, but you do not have school, you do not have road their living condition is terrible..so without any fact and figure do not put such line here.
I apologize for using middle finger word but again, we are not bichara, we are not open and receptive, we are so orthodox we barely give importance to others, this is why we are like this. We only see NEWARS NEWARS AND NEWARS. Again, I belong to buddhist newars and we always used to say "Shesya ta la newa hey makhu." ( shrestha are not actual newars)
I do not agree we do not know our history and our culture, we know it better than other communities, and for that matter I am proud of our community.
All I AM TRYING TO SAY IS UNLESS WE DO NOT IDENTIFY OUR NEGETIVE (as if we are purest ethnic community) WE WILL NEVER RISE AS A COMMUNITY . NOW SITUATION HAVE CHANGED AND IT WON't BE KTM CENTRIC NEPAL ANYMORE, EVEN WITHIN KTM WE ARE ALREADY MINORITY POPULATION. LET US ABANDONED ORTHODOXY AND ACCEPT THE REALITY! BEING NEWARS OF NEW GENERATION IT IS UP TO US!
Btw, when I was in Biratnagar, Newars of that region write their mother tongue as Nepali not Newari- I was shocked to know about that but now I realized it is no one's fault and it is stupid to tell them to write Newari as their mother tounge! NO? So newari as we think is not all newars mother tongue but again you will blame khas for conspiring but it is not exactly like that! talk to any newars out side the valley you will know what I mean.
First, I did not talk anything on culture and language here, I just forwarded a news-piece on wrongly over-used word. Next, "Newar" language became "Newar+I" only after "Khas" language conspired snatching the word "Nepali" replacing "Gorkhali" in the palace of Ranas."
- It is immaterial what name you want to have and how you want to correct it the fact is Newar Community are well knowns all around the world as an " newar" not the one time majority population of "Nepa" valley. So if some says it is newari how can that be not correct- where is the prooff that Khas jati conspired you then. Now if you want to denounce historical fact then tell " Nepa" as separate rajya and undo the PN Shah's victroy. Can you? No right on the same ground if newari has become more pervasive and popular than Nepal Bhasa (even nepal bhasa has been equally used as I remember from my childhood to today) why so big fuss? Also, we ourself recognize ourself as a " newa"- remember " jhi newa newaye jhui" then we in our talk we say " newa bhaye lah le" so why you wnat to make big issue.
Newars and other non-khas are open and receptive more than necessary. If talking about a wrongly used word should trigger ethnic tension, then, Nepal would have triggered bloodshed while so many languages were banned from official use for centuries, so many traditional-systems dismantled, so many cultural assets exploited.
O c'mon, do not try to connect KTM newar community with other non khas, as KTM newars have never been receptive and open, as I said, we are the one who discover all kind of derogatory words to other community. Sen- to mangolian, marsya to teraibasi, Khen to chetri, barmu to bahun and so forth. we make big fuss of Nepal. I remember how our newari budhi society used to despise " chat of terai people" and "teej of bahun chetri". I am just giving an example, accepting our fault will make us stronger and help us move forward brother, why you want to shrink your heart?
"Nay, Chhipa, Bhagra, Jyapu, Nau, Jogi, Tamwo, Bare, Po, Kau, Syasya, Barmu, Guruju" etc. are not considered derrogatory-I remember when my mom used to say " ah babu bhahale mithawone mathe ni nya tegu wo jaypu tegu then jui mutulahaye bani jui" ( do not go to play with jyapu and sahi kids you will do like them and learn all kind of foul language) this is how I was raised and our society. You kidding me bro- can you go and chettrapati and call a sahi/khadgi "wo nya ka la ta da?" ( wo nya can you cut a peice of lamb for me?" can you. stop BS bro we all newars know it.
The core-settlement of KTM did rarely get a significant change or development budget. These areas are almost unchanged for last 300 years. All developments in KTM is in outskirts of old-settlement where KTM people do not live.
You need to brush up your knowledge brother, 20 years ago, most of newari settlment did not have water supply, hiti, tunchi or common hiti established by rana used to only one source, most of bahals , nani, roads used to unpaved, now see where is the core area. again these are mere examples, the foot pring of ktm is so rich, and above all culture is so rich, even you wish, the outlook will not be changed even in next 1000 years but that does not mean KTM core area did not get any development, you must be kidding, Brother have you even been to inchanku danda where tamang village is ? it is in outskirt and mere 6 km away from heart of the ktm, but you do not have school, you do not have road their living condition is terrible..so without any fact and figure do not put such line here.
I apologize for using middle finger word but again, we are not bichara, we are not open and receptive, we are so orthodox we barely give importance to others, this is why we are like this. We only see NEWARS NEWARS AND NEWARS. Again, I belong to buddhist newars and we always used to say "Shesya ta la newa hey makhu." ( shrestha are not actual newars)
I do not agree we do not know our history and our culture, we know it better than other communities, and for that matter I am proud of our community.
All I AM TRYING TO SAY IS UNLESS WE DO NOT IDENTIFY OUR NEGETIVE (as if we are purest ethnic community) WE WILL NEVER RISE AS A COMMUNITY . NOW SITUATION HAVE CHANGED AND IT WON't BE KTM CENTRIC NEPAL ANYMORE, EVEN WITHIN KTM WE ARE ALREADY MINORITY POPULATION. LET US ABANDONED ORTHODOXY AND ACCEPT THE REALITY! BEING NEWARS OF NEW GENERATION IT IS UP TO US!
Btw, when I was in Biratnagar, Newars of that region write their mother tongue as Nepali not Newari- I was shocked to know about that but now I realized it is no one's fault and it is stupid to tell them to write Newari as their mother tounge! NO? So newari as we think is not all newars mother tongue but again you will blame khas for conspiring but it is not exactly like that! talk to any newars out side the valley you will know what I mean.