well, I didn't mean to say that I don't like these kind of topics. I love them sometimes because they don't require much thinking (no offense to you guys), but sometimes you really get tired of it. I know most of you may me thinking "if you are tired, why don't you get the hell out of here?'. Well, in that case, I only have four words to say "Shut the hell up". Well, since everyone is talking about it. I have something to add too. 4y5h3, if I had to make a move, I would start from talking. I would try to be as friendly as possible. Then, gradually get the phone number and start calling her and finally screw her (oops, sorry did I just say that?). If anyone doesn't know how to ask a girl's phone no, be ready to learn askkPhone101 you dummies. "Excuse me, I lost my phone no. Can I have yours?" Cheers (hehehe, this is Friday evening, anybody wanna have a beer with me??) Luckydude