Posted by: Issac July 12, 2009
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Again, I asked the readers to READ what I wrote CAREFULLY. My problem is NOT with Hinduism, but rather with the PATRIARCHAL ASPECTS OF HINDUISM--THE PATRIARCHAL ASPECTS IN MANY CULTURES AROUND THE WORLD. Nepal is inching along with the rest of the world when it comes to equality for all, especially womens rights. Where are your facts, your data, your statistics, Pire?? You forget to mention that, despite our President being a male, we work under a democracy, where everyone regardless of color, creed, or sex is allowed to vote. We CHOSE our President, not because he's a man, or because he's Black, but because we felt that he is what our country needs--a fresh mind with a progressive attitude. Hilary Clinton wasn't too far behind in the primary election, and yet she still has one of the most powerful positions in our nation. I would say that this is pretty darn progressive.
Do you mean to tell me, Sidster, that the Nepali culture does not work under a patriarchal society? That the term most scholars would use to describe Nepal is "egalitarian"? Because, all the textbooks that I've looked at, and Womens and Gender Studies students I've talked to, and Nepali people I've conversed with have told me otherwise. Good for you to have chosen a novel way of thinking, but you can't change the underlying foundation of a hundreds-year-old civilization with some New-Age ideals.
And Pire, I never said that Hinduism condones violence on women. I merely stated the fact that, in patriarchal societies, there is a grave disparity between the rights of the patriarch (male) and the females who live under the law of the land. This PATRIARCHAL IDEAL is what causes the oppression of women, and NOT HINDUISM. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHEND WHAT I AM SAYING.
And as for the Brahminical view... Doesn't the Nepali culture believe in a hierarchical caste, one where the Dalits are the lowest of the low, and are treated very poorly? I don't know that I would want to be a part of this way of thinking...
And, no, I was not one of the jurors, so please stop asking. I know the victim of the case too well to be one of the jurors. I thought that you would have picked up on that immediately when I said that I was a friend of hers. Jurors who have any knowledge of the case that they are being selected for are not allowed to be a part of the panel. Perhaps you would have known this if you knew more about America and the way our judicial system works.
As for deviance in societies--this did not come out of the "West," as you put it, but out of every culture, every country there is in this world. There are individuals, such as Ajay, who refuse to acknowledge morals and ethics set down by a greater population, whether it be from some mental disability or psychological problem. This is not cultural in nature, but rather simple deviance--almost in the way we see mutations along an evolutionary trail. I am not bashing the Nepali culture or the country, but I am bashing the patriarchal system that has been engrained in this civilization and many others for ages.
Do you mean to tell me, Sidster, that the Nepali culture does not work under a patriarchal society? That the term most scholars would use to describe Nepal is "egalitarian"? Because, all the textbooks that I've looked at, and Womens and Gender Studies students I've talked to, and Nepali people I've conversed with have told me otherwise. Good for you to have chosen a novel way of thinking, but you can't change the underlying foundation of a hundreds-year-old civilization with some New-Age ideals.
And Pire, I never said that Hinduism condones violence on women. I merely stated the fact that, in patriarchal societies, there is a grave disparity between the rights of the patriarch (male) and the females who live under the law of the land. This PATRIARCHAL IDEAL is what causes the oppression of women, and NOT HINDUISM. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHEND WHAT I AM SAYING.
And as for the Brahminical view... Doesn't the Nepali culture believe in a hierarchical caste, one where the Dalits are the lowest of the low, and are treated very poorly? I don't know that I would want to be a part of this way of thinking...
And, no, I was not one of the jurors, so please stop asking. I know the victim of the case too well to be one of the jurors. I thought that you would have picked up on that immediately when I said that I was a friend of hers. Jurors who have any knowledge of the case that they are being selected for are not allowed to be a part of the panel. Perhaps you would have known this if you knew more about America and the way our judicial system works.
As for deviance in societies--this did not come out of the "West," as you put it, but out of every culture, every country there is in this world. There are individuals, such as Ajay, who refuse to acknowledge morals and ethics set down by a greater population, whether it be from some mental disability or psychological problem. This is not cultural in nature, but rather simple deviance--almost in the way we see mutations along an evolutionary trail. I am not bashing the Nepali culture or the country, but I am bashing the patriarchal system that has been engrained in this civilization and many others for ages.