Posted by: Rewire January 23, 2009
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Bhusiyakukur,
Like you many Nepali grow up without some basic knowledge of world history to even compare if the fact is true or not. Using your common sense, you can answer a lot of doubt. I've not seen the movie nor do I care to read all the postings, interview etc etc. Anybody can claim anything. I rely on scholars writing and research.
Before 500 BC, the world did not have too much history, borders and written scripts, if any, were primitive. The Greeks were the most advanced civilization during those period in the West, at least they have clear records of the time period. On the Asian side, present day Chinese were the most advanced.
With that set aside, no matter what India claims about their civilization, during the period of Buddha, there was no concept of a unified India (Bharat) nor there was Nepal. There were simply many kingdoms.One of them was Nanda Empire on the norther border of present day India, it included Nepal and Bihar state. Around 320 BC, Chandragupta (grandfather of Ashoka) started the Maurya dynasty and took over Nanda and spread around a few more territoy. Then came Asoka who was the first one to unite India all the way except of the souther tip near modern day Kerala. Yes, we were part of modern day India during the Maurya dynasty.
Now coming to the point, 3 hundred years before Askoa, Buddha was born. At that time, there was no concept of a unified India. Before the Nanda Empire, there was no India, period. Buddha was born before the Nanda Empire. So to claim that Buddha was born in India is nothing but India flexing their power.
Here's something to think about and compare with your common sense and logic.
Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem and it was under the rule of the Romans. If asked, where Jesus was born, everybody will answer "Jerusalem" and NOT "Rome". Technically according to the India's logic, Jesus was born in Rome, Italy. It does not matter how the past (which of course is very blurry....remember, history is always written by the powerful group over the other) relate to an incident, what matters is PRESENT. Lumbini is in PRESENT day Nepal.
Like you many Nepali grow up without some basic knowledge of world history to even compare if the fact is true or not. Using your common sense, you can answer a lot of doubt. I've not seen the movie nor do I care to read all the postings, interview etc etc. Anybody can claim anything. I rely on scholars writing and research.
Before 500 BC, the world did not have too much history, borders and written scripts, if any, were primitive. The Greeks were the most advanced civilization during those period in the West, at least they have clear records of the time period. On the Asian side, present day Chinese were the most advanced.
With that set aside, no matter what India claims about their civilization, during the period of Buddha, there was no concept of a unified India (Bharat) nor there was Nepal. There were simply many kingdoms.One of them was Nanda Empire on the norther border of present day India, it included Nepal and Bihar state. Around 320 BC, Chandragupta (grandfather of Ashoka) started the Maurya dynasty and took over Nanda and spread around a few more territoy. Then came Asoka who was the first one to unite India all the way except of the souther tip near modern day Kerala. Yes, we were part of modern day India during the Maurya dynasty.
Now coming to the point, 3 hundred years before Askoa, Buddha was born. At that time, there was no concept of a unified India. Before the Nanda Empire, there was no India, period. Buddha was born before the Nanda Empire. So to claim that Buddha was born in India is nothing but India flexing their power.
Here's something to think about and compare with your common sense and logic.
Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem and it was under the rule of the Romans. If asked, where Jesus was born, everybody will answer "Jerusalem" and NOT "Rome". Technically according to the India's logic, Jesus was born in Rome, Italy. It does not matter how the past (which of course is very blurry....remember, history is always written by the powerful group over the other) relate to an incident, what matters is PRESENT. Lumbini is in PRESENT day Nepal.
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