BC, don't play around with words. Let me review.

When I said ,"I don't think NYC would ask for whole lot of Federal $$$ to fund their "Little Italy" Fiesta or other significant day that part of the NYers celebrate for historic and cultural reason."
Read it again pal. Make sure u read it again and pay attention to the phrase "whole lot of Federal $$$"

Your reply was, "ha ha ha Little Italy festivals are all Cahtolic Church related and are tax free. They have the Italian community who fund these through the Tax free bracket and the $$ also comes from Faith based charities from the Federal govt. "

My reply to u point was, "BC so u are saying The Feast of San Gennaro is entirely paid by the Federal government. Grow up. Check the facts, Sonny. Whist the federal goverment may give tax break to Catholic Churches to hold processions, it doesn't write a check for NYC or Little Italy. If you want to know how much the community is involved, go check their website.  http://www.sangennaro.org/. "

Your response was, "Did I say that feast of SanGenarro is funded by Federal Govt ? You must have pulled that one out of your ass. But it is funded by that Tax sheltered bractket called religious institutions which belong to the Catholic Church. Which conduct their own business, own their own properties(federal Govt did not engulf their properties and land). Whereas Nepali government did take over Guthi and the temple's properties and land which left them out in the dry. When I mentioned federal govt.'s support for religious charites I Meant Bush's recent proposal of funding faith based organizations only. DADDDIOOO !!! http://www.religionandsocialpolicy.com/news/article.cfm?id=701."

By the way, "that Tax shelter braket called religious institution" does NOT belong to the catholic church. I don't know where u got that peiece of (mis)information.  Further more, what u have done is proven my point, ie, the feast is not a federally funded event; that the feast has some federal assistance but not interference because the feast is a NYC event (although not really but u know the whole Italian immigrants and Napoli connection). Infact it has a distinct NYC flair with the Mayor often embarking on a PR campaign encouraging the public to attend the event and assuring peace and security. Once again to see how the wider public is encouraged to participate and contribute to their feast. U can check out what other parties pay for the festivities.

BC don't attack my staw man. It's clear U can't handle the gist because rather than trying to solve the problem or atleast present a set of solutions no matter how basic they may be, you are trying to play the devil's advocate and argue.

Regarding who decides who gets how much, it should be decided by the municipality/VDCs and representatives of guthis and other social organizations that hold these cultural events under the supervision (moderation) of Ministry of Culture. I think i have already given a rough blue-print.  Look I am not pretending that I have a silver bullet here. But my model does look to solve problems (present and future) and build consensus. For past disputes, may be the best way is to go ahead is as suggested by Pat, to create a commiittee to look into irregularities on the side of the government and public. The institutions that are in Guthi properties should pay "rent" for x number of years. Or just go to the court.

BC, "I have no problem if federal govt. get involve or not, once they give the land back to the people they took it from. Then the community can self sustain themselves. But untill then the federal govt should be involve just like they used to be."
BC u have a narrow mind. For u can only fathom two possible solutions. 1. Give the land back (it won't happen).

2. Go back to the old system or regress.(which is not sustainable). Seems u don't like changes or u are not willing to try other other solutions where are much more comprehensive and plain better.

For IndraJatra, the community should seek govt. help. But it should also pull up its own socks. Besides reforming guthi system as was proposed by Pat, I have already written how the museums and other businesses that thrive from the very culture that are present in Basantapur-Durbar square area can contribute to the funding of the festival. Not to forget, more intensive fund raising activites. I have already written about it earlier.

Moving on to tax issue that u talk about- Let me tell you, the main reason of tax collection by the central/federal government is  for income redistribution. In blunt words, collect from rich and divide it amongst the poor. Yes the rich get some of it too, but not as much.  If taxes were collected only to spent where they were collected from, any local authority could have been in charge of doing so. Why would any society need a "Centre Based Authority" to collect tax? Taxation is a socialist issue, capitalists despise tax. Taxes are meant for the "greater good;" for society as a whole. So it is not unfair for Kathmandu bais's tax going to let's say Gulmi or Jumla, or Ramechap. It's actuall good. But talking about it would be digressing from the main agenda here, so i won't go there.

BC comments, "But they ar not doing that right now are they ? ha ha ha THAT WAS MY POINT."

Well  the government was not doing that. It was not decentralizing its efforts to fund/organize jatras. It was not running community friendly PR campaign. Instead it was getting heavily involved, funding, going in detail....hence the mess on the streets. I don't know if the govt will change in coming days, may be not. But for sure, those were not ur talking points, smartass. Remember what u were saying at the beging while responding to nepe's comments? That local involvement and local decision making capabilities would bring another civil war...  u were also calling the same points "passing the buck."  dude either u are not reading my comments properly or u are playing plain dumb.