finaleword, looks like u did your home work... i like your dudh-bhat metaphors... i just dont understand why you all keep on insisting that one player can make much of a difference... whether it is the traitor from new york, the great saurav, or the two big men from dc... i mean, how much difference can it really make.. unfortunately team play and winning is more like masu-bhat not dud-bhat.. i have never seen phoenix play, i have only seen dallas and dc as they were the last two years... i think both teams are very solid and can easily make up for the loss of one or two players.. i guess we shall all soon see how accurate/inaccurate our analysis has been... fyi... no words from samsara lately... usually samsara bro comes up with the best comments..