Hey, hey fellas, I don't think John meant to portray his feelings that way. Its not about whether the waitress who with no qualifications got a green card and John, educated as he is with two master was still struggling to get his. What he feels is something I have always felt; the ones who have been here for so long (legally, paying taxes, doing everything right by the system and making regular visits to the law offices to find out ways to achieve their gren cardl) are still eluded from their american dream. Whereas, we get a few lottery winners who without much effort get to achieve that dream instantly. Not that i have anything against them as a few of my relatives have come here the same way, but in my viewpoint that doesn't seem fair, does it? The US has an estimated 12 million illegals and wouldn't it be more rational to give these people a shot at their american dream rather than award that dream in a silver platter to another set of 55,000 people with similar backgrounds who have never even experienced the hardships/way of life here? Seriously, for me, even if the waiiress was someone with a Ph.D (or working towards one), I'd still feel the same as John did.