to the originator, define: "disgrace" :P..don't tell me you haven't seen worse :P DOVE: pro-age? how about pro-creatures? oh wow *sighs* ...even i can use dove eh being loote and kukur ?....watch, watch...just wait and watch and i will turn into an incredible hulk with cute features in the near future :D........not that i am any less attractive now ni pheri :P LooTe