I agree NEWARS are very communal, but we don't descriminate or hate others, as SACHOKURA said he knows many who HATES NEWARS.Why are others so jealous that we all newars want to be as one, we were and still are very communal tribe. We are very proud of our heritage, our arts, culture, traditions, language, we are the minority in our own land, our culture and language has been threatened to extinction, so what is wrong to be communal to preserve our own culture and language. About deshbhakta and rajbhakta, to me newars r the one who cares more about country and king. Despite being named as kathars or deemed not suitable for military purpose and representing just 6% population, newars hail numbers of martyrs to tally the martys of any major populations. Deny me if you can, from 2007 to 2046 newars contributed more than any other tribes from the ground level (I am not talking abt politicians) for the successful establishment of democracy. And when kathmandu didnot take part in jana andolan-2, everyone blamed people from kathmandu to be kathars and rajabadis. Is this the reward for 40 yrs of contributions ??? I again agree NEWARS are rajbhakta, because rajbhakti is our tradition and it is our culture. I don't but my grand parents still regard king as reincarnation of lord vishnu, no matter how bad things he might have done. Where do you think the belief of king being reincarnation of vishnu came from ?? Newars ....... We regarded Mallas as reincarnation of god ...... we believed he played pasa with Taleju devi ........ and prithvi narayan shah took advantage of this belief, by exchanging dagger with KUMARI and representing himself as the chosen one. Why PNS didnot take newars and still are not taken in his military ranks ??? Is it because Newars are kathars as has been portrayed ??? In contrary the truth is PNS was always scared of revolt from newars after being defeated in every battles he had fought against newars. The worst part is Newars are still not trusted in military. No matter how much newars pay with their blood, it is always not enough to buy the trust. You have to stand on our shoes to understand how we think. If I was alive during the time of PNS, I would have defended Kathmandu by my life from being united as bigger Nepal. No matter how small Kathmandu would have been, I would have been proud to have coutry of our own, just as we are proud now to be Nepali no matter how small it is in world map. How big do you think Nepal is anyway .... we are still baise and chaubise if you consider bigger picture ??? Newars are the defeated ones, don't ask how proud I am to be Nepali ??? Its like asking people of Sikkim how proud they r to be Indian ??? I am proud of Kathmandu, Newari is my mother language, Nepali is my NATIONAL language. Sounds bitter, doesn't it ? but this is how the truth tastes like. Don't get me wrong by comparing kathmandu with sikkim. As for kathmandu, generations have passed since unification and wounds have healed, now I am as proud to be Nepali, as I would have been to be from Kathmandu back then, where as for people of sikkim it is not the same as their scars are still visible. By all this I am just retelling our history from newari perspective. Now Newars are as proud of unification as any other groups. Newars have never revolted against the interest of Nepal, never demanded special treatments, never did as we say in nepali "धमिलो पानीमा माछा मार्ने" and never treated shah dynasty as enemies but have always been revered as god for newars could have easily thrown out tribhuvan from being king after 2007. To me healthy discussion is always good no matter what topic it is on, as long as there is no HATRED involved. This thread caught my attention as I saw this word HATE in sachokura's posting. There is a saying " DON'T HIDE UR SKELETON IN YOUR CLOSET, IT WILL HAUNT YOU IN AWKWARD MOMENTS ". sachokura if you have issues against newars, let it come out, don't keep within urself or ur own people so that issues will turn into HATRED. I have had several disputes with bahunkto in sajha, but I regard him as good guy. I believe the person who you all regard as racist is SAYAMI, to me he is speaking his mind, if he is not correct, discuss with him, you will find lot more things to learn from each other. HATING quietly is worst than speaking out the dissatisfactions. HATING is what back stabbers do. I consider him my best friend who has gut to tell I am stinking on my face when I forget to take shower, so that I can correct my mistakes. We should change our attitude, we should not take comments as criticism but as an advice from a friend. Debates can help us understand each other better and change ourselves to better suit each other. I really appriciate your effort though.