i am really sorry that the thread got the negative attention. Believe me i was not pulling anybody's leg or something. neither san nor umesh belongs to my circle of friends. i do participate in sajha and i do like reading articles in umesh's website. however as a readier i felt like umesh is struggling to keep up with his website financially. that's it fellows, i have nothing to gain or lose posting this thread. i do appreciate anyone's good work.