Thapap - Nah, unfortunately, I can't use the second one . It didn't take much logic for Sajha's code to figure out the two were one, albeit with some assitance from good ole admin I suspect :P, so I can't use the second one when the first is maxed ... he he he . And rightly so coz the rule was put there for a reason :) I felt re-registering with another name would not be the right thing to do. Besides, when I am out of Sajha I have been forced to find other things to explore - so this has turned out to be a blessing in disguise :) I can understand your skepticism about Nepali society - I am sure there are people like that in ours as well as other societies - but I am not sure how long such feelings can be harbored especially if people find better economic opportunities and realize the critical role of optimism in upward mobility. Happy new year to you too, thapap!