kaila bro, I got trained from veritis, and yes I did start from salary ranging in or around $55k. I have no regrets though, for the position I am in right now. I wouldn't say I am defending Veritis, as I have no cause to do so. You talk about supporting dhotis! If they weren't there, imagine where you would be. I am sure you have gotten or sought some sort of help from them. As far as your comment of me, might be coming from $6/hr background -- I only know this: Most of us came from Nepal with a similar vision for our future, and that's my background, and so very well might be yours. Cheers! haami