Hey yamraj, i agree with you. But i agree with you on only one argument, i.e. yes, DV winners are lucky. they are lucky and it is non of your business to be happy or sad about their situation. If you want to give any suggestion to kilroy then go ahead give him some suggestion, but keep you B.S to youself. "DV people can't come their own efforts, they are just lucky, but student are here coming for great achivements" what does that suppose to mean bro, "own effort"? what do you think visa is granted right after you get that first letter. Grow up man, and stop whining just because you did not get what you wanted. It seems like you only met DV winners at gas station and 7-11 but why are you so worried abt them. Is it because you were trying to get a job there, and DV winners took it away from you. Yamraj you are here for great achievements, my guess would be you never had to work as blue collar, where are you working these days umm let me guess goldman sachs ?