Amazing bro and Gobar Ganesh bro, That's just a way to derogate syangajalis.... I accept some of them are really Jali... I don't know people believe in GENERALISATION (Syangjalis are jali is just a generalization)... Anyway I am not of that kind (that's why I am proud). My friends in Ktm never believed that I was from syangja because they used to think they 'have to hide their thumb' when they see syangjali.. but with me they could share their hearts...