as i mentioned before we need to balance between pro-life and pro-choice. that's the reality. we have to be realist hoina ra? cannot stick to false idealogy. all babies are precious. in theory i would be against all abortions. but reality is not that. [ in cases i mentioned like rape, incest and other calamities] state of mother [mentally and psychologically] not is best of shape to bear children. child born during traumatic times not a great survival in this "survival of the fittest" world. think for yourself do you think it would be wise to have such babies in a society. will that be benefical to the MOTHER and her new born. They are going to be shunned. and poor kid is going to get all the deficiencies of the genes[esp. in case of incest]. Imagine what will happen to the mother thinking that her brother/father is father of her baby. her husband. do you think that kind of memory is something that you want to see through out your life. i consider these threat to the existence to the MOTHER herself. then in those situations it has to be an exception (O: second portion of me being pro-life is that MOTHERs should not be killing and being murderers. like its my body i can do anything. and so they start abusing substances. getting knocked up and killing babies. that's a little bit out of place and time. its your body fine do what ever you want. but make sure u cut the fallopian tubes. so you do not have to kill another living being because u want to experience the free world... i am not trying to put my feet in two boats but being a realist. i see the world the way i see it that's why i say ==================================================== once again what do i know (O: