have you ever heard of, NYLIFE Securities inc, owned by NYL. thank you. and just to clarify, what is your point, i said ....Yes i work in a securities , insurance and investment industry. but the company i work for is not traded in NYSE, but is one of the biggest company in US, its a fortune 100 company. Do you see the word INDUSTRY there, did i say anywhere, that i work for a securities compnay thats a fortune 100. And by the way NYL deals with insurance, investment, annuities, mutual funds, and isnt traded in NYSE. But thx for correcting me, i just dont knwo where you were trying to correct me though.