Lootekukur - You miss the point completely. Prior to your last posting, I thought there might have been some substance to what you say and I am quite suprised to find you think the way you do. I don't want to bore everyone here with another lengthy explanation but my original comments to Sidster apply to you. All of the reasons why I think you are off the mark have also been explained in my previous responses. I see your observations as shallow and think your analysis is mostly empirical and doesn't seem to have a lot of data behind it. Also, on a less important note, I have a quick comment about the following: "that much of scrutiny and depth in your explanation was not needed here" I have no desire to write in-depth commentary any more than you have to read it. It merely ties in to your next point "coz this is sajha and i expect a healthy debate scene". There is a lot of look-outside-the-window type of arguments on this thread that use an individuals simple observations to draw vast conclusions. There is a process between observing something and determining the cause and effect of it. I just don't see very much of that happening here because simplistic observations about race are being made and people are frankly jumping to conclusions without looking at all angles of the issue and the facts and data behind the issue. As someone once said when you look outside the window, it appears the sun is going around the world but when you dig in deep and look at the facts and data, you find the answer is quite different. Bidhan 40 - Thanks for posting that. Very interesting stuff. I am on the same planet as you.