interesting twist this thread has made...and i nearly missed it hehe.... sidster, the questions you have posed are not childish to me at least...they expect quite a lot honesty from the one who tries to answer them...i will try to be honest here. i might be totally wrong though so correct me if i happen to be... haddock, kudos to you for your replies. you seem to be quite versed in human civilization...but believe me, that much of scrutiny and depth in your explanation was not needed here and i have this feeling that somewhere down the line you have missed the gist of the queries sidster have put forth. no offence but i believe that there are some hard and bitter facts behind it which may sound offending to many. i might be wrong but nonetheless i am bringing it here coz this is sajha and i expect a healthy debate scene. objections are welcome. okay, let's not go by what should be in the paper. let's face the hard reality-- whites have been dominating the world. if we delve into history of civilizations, there is nothing much to really choose one particular civilization and term it as inherently "supreme" to others. as haddock pointed out, even US and whites had to go through wars, slavery and colonialism. almost all civilizations have gone through almost similar learning curves for development. some have sprouted and developed faster than the other. inventions have indeed come from china and asia as well, they too have scientists and technologies but they have been exploited big time by westerners for their own benefits to a great extent. call them cunning or shrewd/smart, they know how to exploit people and their ideas. if we look at IT field alone, there are probably more number of smart people in india and "indian subcontinents" (hate this terminology but that's how we define other south asian countries close to india) or china for that matter but why is microsoft in US and bill gate an american? why can't japan be the hub for software development? there could be potentially better astronauts in other parts of the world, but why is NASA in US? why is the CEO of world bank an australian? why can't a ghanaian or a trinidadian be? i don't know which civilzation started when in exact date, but at status quo, whites are upfront, let's admit. on top of that, they don't have too many internal problems to deal with at the moment. china have one of the best economies but they are politically secluded. india have second best economy but they have poverty, slums, slavery and unemployment to deal with and appease the gargantuan population they have. african countries have their own problems. its been hardly 15 years since south africa got a global recognition. and there is malnutrition as a major problem in most of the african countries. middle east are into religious wars and differences over land for years now, we all know that. amidst this environment, how can they prosper? who are better off?-- US and EU where majority of whites reside. hence, they can afford to dictate terms to other countries and races. Results--brain drain and exploitation. US and whites may not have sound technical aptitude as indians or chinese have, but they have very good management skill. it should be understood that entrepreneurship prosper society and the nation as a whole. you got to have people working for you rather than you working for others to prosper and reach the pinnacle. whites, so far, have been able to do that. they have good brains from all over the world to work for them. microsoft is a prime example in this context. another important point i would like to put is--"skin color does speak!" why not there are as many black CEO's as white? why blacks are suppressed.-->discrimination! another aspect is human nature. let's say, i happen to be a CEO of a reputed institution and i have to recruit a manager for a section. i would call for application and eventually i have to choose between two equally capable candidates-one is white and another is a brown nepali from my town. i would most definitely go for nepali. its a human nature. discrimination is in human blood to some extent. its inevitable in that sense. i can go on and on in this topic but i am too tired at the moment. sid, haddock and others feel free to argue with me...i welcome your insights. let's learn...this is a good thread and i am enjoying your inputs and queries. g'nite..phew! hehe LooTe