Hey Ifc123 , i am getting what you are saying and i completely understand but you know how i think .It is upto the person.I believe in will power and to do character.Life is stuggle and people who lose it are losers no matter what circumstances is .I would hate my self to be loser too sometimes i hate myself when i lose in life .But then again you have to fight.Long story short:it is not society, not system ,it is the person (individual character )who makes difference.As i said i could have gone to the bar but i choose not to. that is what i meant by choice. Gundaa, Did you hear , i told MM to stop posting and i apologized for using that pic to make fun of in other thread. i really feel we should help out but people need to realize they need to help themself too.